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What is the ideal rate to bluff; is bluff important or needed to win tournaments ?? do you show your cards when you have won with a bluff and if yes why??
 
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bluffing is very rare. Frequent lovers bluff am making notes in the editor about the players and chasten :D
 
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for any player it is necessary to one another bluff , the important thing is to do it at the right time and know how to do , you can not play a tournament always bluffing , but with a good read of opponents will know that time is necessary bluffing
 
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i try to read the players best i can when there is alot of check on the flop and then again on the turn if the turn card is like a j or q ith a king high board ill make a bluff indicatin high pair or possible straight draw
 
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GTO Bluff the same as Pot odds you offer

SO if you bet the pot on River you offer 2/1 odds so Have 2 value bets for every 1 bluff
If you bet 1/2 pot you offer 3/1 so 3 value to 1 bluff :)
 
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What is the ideal rate to bluff; is bluff important or needed to win tournaments ?? do you show your cards when you have won with a bluff and if yes why??

Do u realy think u know how to bluff? :D Just make one power move....
 

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There is no ideal rate to bluff, you bluff when the opportunity comes, but for me about a 10% overall. Although you may bluff two in a row and dont bluff again in a long period depending on the way the table develops: rises, re rises, etc.
to win a Tournament you need to know when and who to bluff and if you dont do it right then you are not the winner.
I will not advice to show cards unless you want to deceive your rivals, show the nuts when you are bluffin or show a rare bluff when you are playing tight, that will be an effective strategy. :deal:
 
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I am not sure their is any correct bluff rate. Bluffing should be based on your image at the table, and your perceived assessment of the other players at your table. Best advice I ever learned when I began was to not carry a three street bluff against an inexperienced player; they call because they have at least pocket 2's, and will never fold their weak hands.
 
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2 things about bluffing -
1- It comes down to playing the playing the player (obviously it has nothing to do with the cards you are holding).
2- It's all about writing a believable story to your opponent. Which brings us back to point 1; if your opponent only reads Mother Goose you do not want to give him a Sherlock Holmes novel - he won't understand it.

Following that kind of strategy there is no ratio to follow - it is determined by your opponents.

Sure, you can show your bluff - but that pretty much kills your future bluffing with those players as they will be much more likely to call when they see a similar scenario from you.
 
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Bluffing, I have never bluffed in poker, have been caught playing poker but I never bluff. You can convince yourself of anything when you are convinced a situation is not winnable or what you are reading prior to this situation is playing out just like you have envisioned this set up in the poker mind.

Psychology of these situations are important because of putting your game in situations to apply fear for the others to convince themselves the opposite is in fact happening. The crap about telling the story is ok in theory but to move past basic understanding, psychology is a better weapon; the story telling will take a back seat.

For example, if you are always looking to tell the right story it will work on people who are looking to read a story, but a person who is already read your story, that person knows the story you are telling and will be willing to tell a different story back at you. If you have not read his story or caught off guard because of thinking this story works other times; now does the story make sense and how could it if you have never heard his story before? What to do? Fold? Call? Raise?


From this action, I would range your thought process against other story tellers and make a proper decision either in the moment or for future use against a one story, story teller. I can go about four levels on a six max table but it is harder to keep the stories straight against eight opponents. Four levels of play, two basic levels, then add your own theories; for example my extra two levels are psychology, philosophy.

Find out who is a poker player and who the card players are as quick as possible when the bets are small. It takes time, training, making mistakes, putting your game in these situations to get comfortable in the moment amongst chaos. I work on a quiet mind in the moment from putting myself in these situations for the betterment of my game. The amount of times you have a hand or do not have a hand when playing volume of situations is the other complex part for the opponent(s) to have to deal with when under pressure.

The psychology of volume hands played, against how people think of players who play to many hands now will be tested in spots in their game when I catch them reacting in a basic way at the wrong time. Adding psychology into the mix allows for extra confidence in my game it is a part of me just like bluffing, telling a story or whatever crap that someone could label incorrectly is what I feed on mentally. Card players and poker players are two different people.

A poker player is what I aspire to become. I do not convince my opponent(s) of anything by telling a story, they convince themselves of what they are reading by reacting from what is presented in the moment; people that make this mistake have convinced themselves of something they can see at the table, in the moment, from understanding my game in the abstract, without enough, or the right concrete information to support their decisions because they believe I am that simple.

I prey on the ego in situations because people who believe they have my game figured out will always want to challenge my thought process. If they out play me, God bless their little hearts, I use the opportunity to learn because the stronger the player, the better poker player I can become in the long run.
 
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I don't think there is a perfect bluffing ratio, although some people might play a bad hand and shoot three barrels no matter what comes, just to mix it up.
I think however, that it is better to look at good opportunities depending on position, board and the other player(s).
In lower stakes bluffing has less chance and people will call you lightly, while at a more advanced level, people might fall for your story.

Sure, you can show your bluff - but that pretty much kills your future bluffing with those players as they will be much more likely to call when they see a similar scenario from you.

It will indeed kill your future bluffing, but it can also make them call lightly when you do have a hand. After a bluff gets caught, a more tight play is better to do this though.
 
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for me the bluff is the most important think in a tourney...i win at least 50% of the winnings frm bluffin...about showing the hand i do it somethimes..it depends..it helps you the most when you are heads up or at least at the final table
 
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the easy way is, as much as you think you can get away with

but all villans are different, some fold to 3bets, some fold to reraises, some fold to flop stabs, etc

so just tailor your bluffs to the villan
 
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Note to self..dont bluff on freeroll
 
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I tend to show my cards for 3 to 10 winning hands that are really good then if no one is betting real big I will bluff with rags an usually win. I also show the bluff because then they don't know when to call or not. If they call my bet when I have the nuts I'm all the happier.:D:D
 
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I tend to show my cards for 3 to 10 winning hands that are really good then if no one is betting real big I will bluff with rags an usually win. I also show the bluff because then they don't know when to call or not. If they call my bet when I have the nuts I'm all the happier.:D:D
That is a possibility, but I like to give as less information as possible. The more you show, the more they know.
But on the other side, some of the high end pro's have their hands shown on TV and online and are still able to keep winning. I guess it depends the style you play and what your goals are.
 
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never show my cards when bluff, because my opponents can read my hand next time
 
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Only bluff against players that I marked, but if the limit is higher, the bluff is more effective, but in the bluffs cards do not show.
 
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It will indeed kill your future bluffing, but it can also make them call lightly when you do have a hand. After a bluff gets caught, a more tight play is better to do this though.

No doubt, this is the other side of the coin. If you are expecting to all of sudden start running good, then by all means show that bluff. But if you think you may need to pull another bluff a little later then it may be best to keep them guessing.
 
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If you decided to bluff the best is half bluff.
 
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If you decided to bluff the best is half bluff.

You mean to semi bluff right? :D But yea i agree with you i would stay away from pure bluffs at the beginning and stick only to semi bluffs
 
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There are two options to take away pot:
1. to take away him a bluff
2. to take away him on the showdown having shown the best combination.
 
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bluffing is a good weapon when used at the appropriate time and when you think will be credible for the villain according to the importance of hand, and if it is decisive for my stack or to achieve a prize. I use it when I'm short stack or final table, when effective, or i think it is;)
 
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Bluffing is an integral part of poker. But we need to be able to bluff and disclose bluff other players. I do not bluff too often. I try to avoid the bluff in the early stages of tournaments. If you can not bluff +, it is best to temporarily give up this reception. We can not risk more than 30% of your stack with a bluff. Do not bluff against big stacks. In general, we must be able to seize the moment for a successful bluff.
I believe that to show his hand after a successful bluff is possible in two cases:
1. When the table almost all the players play tight. What would cause more calls.
2. When you play tight. Or dalneshem going to play tight.
In both cases, you are trying to confuse the opponents. And you can get good devidendy, if you're lucky, and almost immediately after the open bluff, you will get a monster or collect a strong combination. A successful bluff, as well as other techniques in poker, come with experience.
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I guess this content will help you to answer you question upon using bluffing strategy.
 
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