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hai friends,
i am new here want to play tight aggrsve style. After enter to table wth good seat postn (ryt of loose aggrsve and left of bigbully) i start playing wth ak,aq,aj,a10,jq,qk,k 10,j 10, q 10 like hands by calling without positon and small rase wth postn and if gets sme win start playing sme suits nd cnectrs medum hands i try to cntrol the pot til it hits but if sme one pick my style nd if had bad time and cards nt hiting in flop they rase nd making me calling station and i go wth hand (wth these top hands and flush draw and open draw or smal pockt to hit set) bt river nt hit again they cntinues nd i lose more . After some same play they making me unplayble my these hands aa, kk, qq, jj, 1010 if any top pair hit than my pockt or any draws visble in flop mostly flush draws they rase nd i cal nd they hits draws. . I doubt my conservative play and betting pattern makes big pblm if cards nt hiting and also if my card nt hit most time my reading goes poor becz of fear . . Plz show me right way and make me know my mistakes
 
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Hello friends. . I am expecting your valuable information
 
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I dont fully understand what your question is but what you should change is to first select your hands according to the position you are at, you can find a lot of sheets with with which range you should play from which position, here is one post i find really useful, you can also check the whole tread
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/lea...stakes-good-play-bad-233516/post-2215061.html

plus search the PSO for their starting hands, there is downloadable pdf version.

Now about your position when table selecting i again didnt understand how you select your spot but here is how you should do it according to harrington
bigstack loose player to your right and shortstack tight player to your left


About betting pattern you'll want all your bets to be the same size no madder what hand you have, that means that you should open with same size no mader you have AA or 89s that means betting pattern, i dont know what limits you play or is it cash or mtt but ill assume that it is micros and there you rarely find a player who would figure out your betting pattern, so it cant be the problem there, your biggest problem probably is playing to loose passive and oop and you might overestimate your hand strength and dont give credit to your opponents enough.

This is the best i could from the little info you gave, hope this helps please hit up with additional info or more questions if you need more help...

GL at the tables
 
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Ok... so sorry OP but that opening paragraph was a bit hard to read. Maybe next time you can try breaking it up so everyone can understand better the question you're asking? :)

From what I've learnt, pot control can be good. Maybe you might want to consider watching how often you're playing hands. If your opponent sees you playing a lot of hands and if they've seen what hands you play with, then they probably have clued in to your playing style.

Try not to chase the flush or straight draw when they keep betting and the bets get bigger. Alternatively, you want to try and gauge what kind of hands they have. Re-raise to see if they'll fold, call or re-raise and study the flop to get an idea as to what cards they might have.

Maybe you might want to change your playing style a little because if they peg you as being a conservative player, they might use it against you and bully you even when they have rubbish cards.
 
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I am very thankful friends DrazaFFT,blakewyte for your information for improve my play. Actualy i am new to forum writing . I will explain the details now. I hope your suggestions will help me lot.
 
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i am from india and playing online holdem low stack poker at indian site (www.adda52.com). I know about starting hands and knows the importants of kicker.
I play more conservative till gets the table image .example if i had AK SUIT and in early position i only calls and if find a small rase after me i can put him on ace with low kicker and over bet thats the way i play most time
The site i play hit flush draws almost every hand so players most times enter with any suited cards and they are ready to call preflop rases in that condition if i rase ak or aa or kk preflop and 3 or 4 players called and if any draws visble or our card dont hit on flop how we play it is my first problem part. To Win that pot holding high hand i need to rase more ?? . if again get 2 callers and river complets flush draw or a worse card came for me i slow down and that time one of these two players will bet a high amount and i loose hand. I want to know your suggestions in these situations.
If it happes again 2 or three times other players easily understanding where i am slowing down and reads my every movement . So i wish you could help me to improve my play.
 
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Ok, first of all, you need to establish some ground rules for preflop play, one of them is always open with the raise and most would advice that raise should be same size for every hand you open as i already said same size for AA/Ak and for 89s/67s. Now if you checked the link i posted above and the starting hands chart from PSO (if you didnt find it PM me and ill send you the link to it) you have an great idea what to do in any given situation assuming that you know the table positions.

Now lets talk about your EP AK hand, strong starting hands dont happens as often as we want so whenever we got them we want to gain value from them, this is not happening by limping into unopened pot, its happening by raise, also you dont want weak starting hands to see the cheap flop and outdraw you or connect to two pairs or bigger, so bottom line raise pre everytime you want to play a hand. I dont see why you would put someone who raise into a weak ace hand, without any info about that player, that is just something you don't wanna do he can have anything and he might trying to isolate limper or whatever...
About flushdraws, i don't think that they happen that often as you think you might just have small sample, make sure when you have made hand and there is 2 card of the same suit to bet big, so that if they wanna draw their flush they'll pay more than they should and they'll lose longterm, so for the example if you are in headsup bet potsize on flop if he is drawing, if you have more callers bet even bigger, but believe me if you raised 4bb pre you wont have multiple callers that often. and even if you do believe if you bet good you'll win money longterm.
 
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Thanks friend. . I understand my mistakes and I hope your suggestions will improve my play . I started reading harrington work book now . . Thanks a lot
 
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