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I was just wanting to know what suited connectors have the best chance of connecting to the board the best. Which one would be the best to play? 67s,57s, or47s.
 
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I was just wanting to know what suited connectors have the best chance of connecting to the board the best. Which one would be the best to play? 67s,57s, or47s.
AKs.
57s and 47s are not connectors.
At any raise preflop you should fold 67s if there are no callers in front of you. It is worth playing them only in special conditions: Deepstack, verry tight players that raise first etc.
 
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I know the basis if playing suited connectors I was just wandering if one of them had more potential to flop than the other.
57s and 47s are still suited connectors just like 79o and 2Js are connectors. Connectors are any thing that you can use both cards to complete a draw.
 
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I know the basis if playing suited connectors I was just wandering if one of them had more potential to flop than the other.
57s and 47s are still suited connectors just like 79o and 2Js are connectors. Connectors are any thing that you can use both cards to complete a draw.

Suited connectors are cards like 6,7s that come right after each other. 5,7s would be a suited gapper and that has a lot less value than a connector. So to answer your question, the connectors have a better chance of connecting with the board.
 
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The best suited connectors are AK. Nothing can beat it except a Pocket pair.
 
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First of all, AKs is not the best suited connector. Second, suited gappers don't have that much less value than suited connectors. 57s plays very similarly to 67s.

IMO the best suited connector/gapper is q10s. This hand plays EXTREMELY well post flop. That being said, you have to know when to play suited connectors. Playing them in all spots is not profitable. The best spots to play suited connectors, and potentially 3 or 4 bet preflop, is when you know the range of hands your opponent is holding is wider than average. This means your opponent is playing more hands than the typical player.

I would say q10s, followed by 89s... then i think j10s,kj,qjs, 67s,78s 57s all fall into similar categories. Obviously AKs is a monster. But in terms of suited connectors/gappers that PLAY the best postflop, i would say q10s outdoes them all. Preflop, AKs obv.
 
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Wouldn't 10Js be better than AKs in terms of connecting a straight? There are many, many more flops that give us a straight than with AK.
 
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I'll play AK vs. JT any time.
 
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^Definitely, I'm not saying 10Js > AKs at all. That's not my point. I'm saying 10J can hit straights much better than AK. Of course AK is a much stronger hand overall.
 
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JT is as good a choice as any, but you get gut shots and double gutters alot more playing the 1, 2, & 3 gappers .
 
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I'll take a low suited connecting hand since it's highly unlikely you'll make a second-best hand, and when you hit the flop hard, you're more likely to have a surprise factor and get paid off.
 
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It's actually highly likely you'll make a second-best hand with low suited connectors.
 
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Also consider if you have JT suited, You might be up against QJ suited and you are more than a 2-1 dog.
 
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Doyle Brunson said he prefers low suited connectors instead of high ones becuase opponents aren't likely to put him on two low cards. With high suited connectors you are more likely to run into trouble when you make two pair giving somebody a straight draw and if you get a straight draw there's likely to be somebody with top pair trying to raise you out of the pot.
 
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Doyle said that in an era where people 3-bet 2% and VPIPs over 20% were unknown among pros.

and in any case, he's wrong. Pair value of hands is always going to outweigh the "monster" potential of connectors and higher connectors give you far more postflop playability. In any event the chance of getting coolered with overflushes and overstraights is far greater than with bigger cards obv.

Every fish in the world likes playing small suited connectors and it's a huge reason why fish lose money.

http://www.propokertools.com/simulations/show?g=he&h1=54s&h2=30%&s=classic

http://www.propokertools.com/simulations/show?g=he&h1=QJs&h2=30%&s=classic
 
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you should also take into consideration the suited connectors

should also take into consideration the suited connectors "blocker" ability what they block out of your opponent/s range/s

they also tend to be better multiway

the thing i dont like is that they become "chasers" ie u limp with low per- little reason to continue if u miss trips on flop, but with suited connectors you are more likely to catch a piece on flop....so i think position becomes more important consideration for further streets
 
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Ironically I got my ass kicked by suited connectors today. Was laughing the second time I got beat, Thought he had to have an over pair becuase I didn't think my AA could lose to quads two games in a row.
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Wouldn't 10Js be better than AKs in terms of connecting a straight? There are many, many more flops that give us a straight than with AK.
The reason for playing AKs is not primarely to connect to a streight They have the strength to hit a flush, a streight but different from other suited connectors is that they give us the possibility to hit TPTK and this will happen quited often.
 
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Doyle Brunson said he prefers low suited connectors instead of high ones becuase opponents aren't likely to put him on two low cards. With high suited connectors you are more likely to run into trouble when you make two pair giving somebody a straight draw and if you get a straight draw there's likely to be somebody with top pair trying to raise you out of the pot.
That was a long time ago when Doyle or T.J. Cloutier were never willing to shove without seeing the flop. Game has changed since those days.
 
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Doyle Brunson said he prefers low suited connectors instead of high ones becuase opponents aren't likely to put him on two low cards. With high suited connectors you are more likely to run into trouble when you make two pair giving somebody a straight draw and if you get a straight draw there's likely to be somebody with top pair trying to raise you out of the pot.
That was a long time ago when Doyle or T.J. Cloutier were never willing to shove without seeing the flop. Game has changed since those days.
 
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^Right swing, but I was just referring only to the connectedness and stuff, which I believe is the main concern in the OP.
 
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67 has 4 chances (T to 6, 9 to 5, 8 to 4 and 7 to 3)
57 has 3 chances (9 to 5, 8 to 4 and 7 to 3)
47 has 2 chances (8 to 4 and 7 to 3)
Therefor 67 is more likely to hit a straight on the flop.

TJ can hit 4 different straights on the flop, all of which are the nuts. Therefor TJ is considered a very strong draw hand.
Doyle Brunson has a section in his book where he sais that he prefers 67s over 89s.
 
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57s and 47s are still suited connectors just like 79o and 2Js are connectors. Connectors are any thing that you can use both cards to complete a draw.
lmao I stopped reading after seeing this as you have no clue and need to read up on terminology before you start playing/posting again.
 
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^Right swing, but I was just referring only to the connectedness and stuff, which I believe is the main concern in the OP.
I think his main concern has to be learning the terminology in poker. He does not know what a suited connector is in the first place.
I do not know what articles he reads but it is clear to me that he does not have the patience to read all the words . That's why some of his post are hilarious. I am an engineer and what i learned from my years of experience is that you cannot learn complex things without a good knowledge of the basics terms, basic theories. Of course after a while you can read an scan an article for things that matters but this abillity comes after years of training your mind in a certain domain. First you have to learn how to search for the thing you are looking for. If you have no ideea what the thing you are searching looks like, than you have a problem.
 
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I didnt show in my other post but My aa got beat by quads two games in a row by SC.
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