Being Humble - need advice

Jon Poker

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Well long story short i made a $50 deposit into ACR quite some time ago ( possibly 9 - 10 months) and i played fairly frequently tho i didnt have a ton of time on the weekends and i have a regular job. I played alot of micro stakes cash and alot of $1.5 sng's. I did fairly well, within the first month i was up to just over $90. I took some beats, went on a bad run and dropped to about $34 in less than a month, ran it back up to $50 and its been up and down and up and down for quite some time, never really making any headway.

I will admit, my bankroll management is probably my weakest point - tho i am working on that aspect of my game. If i happen to take multiple bad beats close together in one session - aces getting cracked, underpairs hitting a set, etc. Then i lose it and tho i will quit sometimes like i should - sometimes i just start throwing it out there to higher stakes and lose it all. Anyhow, this happened 3 different times when i used to play on Betonline, which wasn't the best site to me. The runouts were horrible, always coolering big hands, and i had recorded evidence of what i was pretty certain to be poker bots at work so i quit playing there.

Anyhow, lost everything down to about $9, over 3 months (or very close to it) i ran my roll up to $90 again, then right at $100, then about $120. Micro stakes i used to play were .05 / .10 or .02 / .05 but, like many other people here i find it very difficult to grind out anything against these bingo players at these stakes so i have trouble staying focused at these stakes. Anyhow, i lost a few $10 buy ins at 5c/10c and then a few $5 sng's and just out of frustration threw $40 into a .25 /.50 game...lost that with AA against 88, i 5 bet cold shoved and he snapped me off for just over $35 and rivered a good old flush. So i took the $29 or so that i had left, started running a "progressive" strategy at roulette - which was ignorant to begin with - i worked running that up to about $44 - then i lost 8 spins in a row, go figure, who didnt see that coming. So anyhow, my online roll is now less than $1...what an idiot i felt like that day doing every single thing i knew not to do and said i was not going to do this time around - i let frustration get to me and fell into old and poor habits.

The entire point of telling you all this story is i am looking for advice now. I have taken over a week off, i really want to make another deposit, but at the same time, im not dead broke so until my acct reads $0.00 then i still have a chance. So these are the questions i want to ask - What do i do to improve my management? Have you dealt with severe emotions like this that get the best of your logic? How in the heck am i going to build a roll from less than $1 playing "bingo" poker? And lastly, what advice can you give me to take forward in the future?
 
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Welcome to the club man it can be one big pity party poker at times pick yourself up
Keep pursuing your dreams pal.

 
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Welcome to the club.

Many will tell your bankroll management is for winning players only...and they're correct. Once you've proven you can beat a stake level (i.e. 5NL) then you can worry about about bankroll management. That in mind, deposit at least enough for 20 buy ins of the lowest stake on the site you wish to play. Or if you want to try the next up stake, enough for that stake but prepared to move down if you drop below 15 buy ins for that stake. But don't bother staking yourself for any higher than maybe the 2nd or 3rd lowest stake, unless you're a proven winner at higher stakes with a large sample, you're burning money. Trust me.


As for tilt, set a stop loss of say 3 buy ins. And if you feel tilted, take a break, sometimes even a few minutes can do wonders.


Make sure you're using software to track your progress or somehow tracking your wins/losses. It's eye opening and being honest with yourself. And over a sample of 10,000 plus hands at a stake if you see you're winning, it feels real good and gives you confidence that you're starting to beat a stake. I def agree with the feeling that you're spinning wheels and not getting anywhere, I feel the same sometimes. But for me , after I rebuilt my game from the ground up recently, I at least know I'm consistently beating 5NL and 10NL on at least one site for over 15,000 -20,000 hands per level.



ACR is one of the hardest sites to play on (and BTW, is bot infested as well, but most sites have bots).
 
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Quick - ive suspected a bot or 2 on ACR as well, i agree where i think they exist on most sites.

Thanks for the replies so far - as far as bankroll management only being for winning players, i think in a sense thats very true, in the end tho i think i would consider myself a "winning player" tho i do not particularly have the numbers to back such a claim. Going 6 - 10 times a year to the casino to play $1/$2nl in the past 4 years ive made just under $10k, but to be honest since i never got to go regularly ive never sat it all aside as a "poker bankroll", ive used my profits for lots of different things. One main thing was getting married and putting down on a new car for the wife. That being said ive only been into the online scene for about a 1.5 years or so, and never started with a large roll for any $1/$2 games. I like the advice of picking a stake that i want to play at and depositing a roll according with that - may be what i end up doing.

Its tough to admit my faults, i am happy to have the advice and to know i am not the only one who has even been here or made mistakes they knew were wrong from the start.
 
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