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Ok, general rule of thumb for bankroll management is 100 X Buy in at cash games? I think I am confused. Say you want to play a $1/ $2 table that has a max buy in of $200. Does that mean your bankroll should be at least $20,000 to play this level?
 
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Yes, if you're using a 100 buy-in as your guide, $20,000 is the proper amount to play $1/$2 (100 of 100 big blind buy-ins). Some people use 20 buy-ins, others use 40, 60 or 100. Determine how conservative you want to be and find something that works.

Personally, for online, I am using 60 buy-ins as my bankroll management, but I'll use my personal money to go play $200 at the casino live $1/$2 if I want from time to time, knowing if it's gone, it's all gone (but I have a decent job and could do this a couple times a month if I wanted).

If I run my bankroll up online, I will eventually convert some of that to a live roll and use bankroll management for live games as well.
 
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also, if u use agro style, you need more then 100 buy-ins, about 150 - 200
 
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Most cash players here would recommend 20 buy ins for the level you want to play at. But obviously the more you have the more comfortable you will feel.
 
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Most cash players here would recommend 20 buy ins for the level you want to play at. But obviously the more you have the more comfortable you will feel.

It is true, i can't afford right now big buy ins and that's why i don't make deposits at all. You should feel comfortable with your bankroll then u can play real poker. :cool:
 
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I typical have 100 buy ins for tournaments and 30 buy ins for cash games. When I move up in cash games I typically have a 5 buy in rule so if I drop 5 buy ins I move back down.
 
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It's not a one size fits all matter. For cash games, the 20 buyin guideline is often linked to Chris Ferguson's bankroll building challenges. What tends to be ignored is that fact that he's a world-class player with a somewhat tight style. At the levels he played during these challenges, he always had a substantial skill advantage. So to be equally buffered from going broke, someone with a smaller advantage and or a more swingy style would need more buyins.

For MTTs, I don't know if the math supports it, but my gut feel is that the number of buyins to be equally buffered depends not only on skill advantage but also on the sizes of the fields you play in.
 
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I am playing 16nl and plan to drop levels if my roll dips to below $480 and move up if it gets to $750, so i'm using a 30 buy in system. At the moment I am nearer to 750 than 480, but I haven't been playing cash tables long and am probably just running hot over a small sample size, so if I do get to $750 I probably won't move up for a while.

A friend of mine reckons 30 buy ins is only ok if playing one table, but because I play 6 tabs he says I am under rolled. Is this correct? I feel it is ok because even though I am playing more tables I am only risking one buy in per table and I will still drop levels if my roll drops below 30 buy ins.
I would be interested to hear anybodies thoughts on this.

To op, I don't mean to hijack your thread, I just thought it was related, so didnt want to fill the board with similar threads. .. and my opinion to your original question is that 100 buy ins is a lot, the type of roll you would need if you were relying on poker for an income. I think as long as you are willing to move down levels when you hit a certain point 30 buy ins is plenty. It's all relative though, a consistant losing player will never really have a big enough roll, but as long as he drops levels when necessary a big buy in roll should buy him the time to learn enough to turn it around.

*I must add that I am a new cash table player and am still learning myself, so I stand to be corrected and the above is just my opinion.

Good luck.
 
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In my opinion it's about personal preference and how much you can afford to risk. I usually stick between 15 and 20 BB when playing microstakes and if I move up higher I will increase that to about 30 or 40 just to be on the safe side.
 
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I feel deep rolled with 10-15 buy ins. But thats just me. Hard to lose 10 buy ins. Possible but uncommon.
 
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I move to the limit above 25 stacks when I type the following limit, and falls back if the current is 20 stacks
 
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I don't know what will be best for you, but personally I use 25 bi's for Cash Games, 50 bi's for SnG's and 75 bi's for MTT's.
 
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you don't need 20k to play in a 1/2 game though, in theory that would be really nice and would offer extreme protection. For live 200NL I would recommend playing with as little as 2k if your really ahead on the skill curve. Online, 200NL is tough and I wouldn't advise you to play it with any less then 3-5k. Honestly when it comes to BRM the more conservative the BETTER
 
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It also largely depends on if you plan on multitabling... if you do plan on multitabling and your a very agro players it not uncommon to go up or down 5 buy ins in a session, more tables = deeper bankroll
 
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Well I don't multi table much. Maybe two tables at once. Anything over 4 and I have a hard time staying focused. Anyway, I am not a complete fish but not really a shark either. I could be a barracuda. Anyway, I have slowly been building my bankrolls on different sites from freerolls and micro games. On BCP, I am actually up to almost $30. The $25 on demand tourneys seem to suite me. Is buying into to those at $0.55 ok for my bankroll?
 
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Well I don't multi table much. Maybe two tables at once. Anything over 4 and I have a hard time staying focused. Anyway, I am not a complete fish but not really a shark either. I could be a barracuda. Anyway, I have slowly been building my bankrolls on different sites from freerolls and micro games. On BCP, I am actually up to almost $30. The $25 on demand tourneys seem to suite me. Is buying into to those at $0.55 ok for my bankroll?
Although its <66bi, I do believe it's the microest option available on BCP right, other than going to cash table your option would probably be 1.5 stt's or at least 1$ mtt's. Should seem fit for building up the role, played a couple of them but got UL on like 1.3 I had in my account :D. GL in building the BR there, also DON games even though the min is 1.5 could be something to play now and then as well given should be a low varience way to build if following a good strat (granted currently only 20bi which still fairly tight but could be managed for DON's).

IMO if the 25$ on demand is working, stick with it until you build a good br to follow a structured brm for what you want to play.
 
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20k to play 1-2? Yes maybe for the most extreme nit.
 
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no, with 40 or 50 max buy in your are relatively safe for cash games. the 100 buy ins are for MTT, in cash games you dont need so many buy ins because downswings arent that high there because unlike MTT, the blinds never increase so there are lot of time to find a good spot to risk your money.
 
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Well the lowest cash game at BCP has a minimum buy in of $10. With a $30 bankroll, that will not last long. I guess at the moment, I will stick to the 0.50 buy in MTT. Thanks for all the help.
 
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Well the lowest cash game at BCP has a minimum buy in of $10. With a $30 bankroll, that will not last long. I guess at the moment, I will stick to the 0.50 buy in MTT. Thanks for all the help.

not sure what your referring to via the 10$ buyin, bcp has 2nl
 
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