Bankroll Building Advice?

So I have recently made an account and played a bit on CarbonPoker with money made via freerolls (because they won't take my visa and I don't have 100$ to send via Western Union).

Through a couple of freerolls and after a couple of losses at the tables, I am down to about 40 cents (which is quite alot when you start with nothing and your a 19 year old college student like me).

I intend to build a solid bankroll (via a few other freerolls this week), but every time I get even close to one, I go on a tilt and lose big.

What advice do you have for me?

If you can´t control yourself and easily go tilt my advise is learn to control those feelings otherwise the best thing for you is simply stop playing before you spent big money on in. Poker is not a game of emotions. It´s the opposite of it.

Learn DON's (double or nothing) half the field doubles their buy-ins.

Stay at the lowest buy-ins you can for as long as you can. I know that will be an almost impossible task for a young college student, but hang in there and since you implied any amount of money will be hard to come by for depositing purposes, you have to take the slow route.

Since you say you built some bankroll from freerolls, you have shown some aptitude for tourney's. Stay away from ring games. For a tourney player, usually, ring games are the bankroll mob stealing your monies.

Learn to enjoy the game. Even if you have a goal of being the best that ever was, learn to enjoy the game.

Always give yourself enough time to run deep in tourney's. I have had an epitome lately in realizing that the biggest reason I fail in tourney's seems to be that I get some notion in my head that there is something I am supposed to be doing other than the game at hand, and stop thinking right. Weird thing is that I can seldom think about what that thing that needed doing was!

Tilt is one of the toughest challenges to overcome in poker.

I think most losing players might be winners if they could just stay off tilt.

A poker player needs to manage their emotions properly. If you are unable to do this, you will never be a long term winner. It is that simple.


Bad beats will happen. Poker is gambling. However, we are not gambling against the house. We can choose the correct odds to gamble our money. We can choose great spots where we are much better than 50/50. But we must remember: even if an event is unlikely to happen, doesn't mean that it won't happen.

This is a mistake many amatuers make. They feel when they are a favorite, they are entitled to the pot or something. They feel they deserve to win when they have A-A and they flop a set.

It is impossible to control luck. All we can do is get our money in good, and hope it holds up.

Unfortunately bad beats happen in poker! It's happened to every one of us. It's how we deal with our emotions and actions after it which defines what kind of poker player we are.
Going on tilt is chasing your loses and bad gamblers fall into this trap. What sets of tilting? Knowing that you have the best hand only to get sucked out on the river. Your set on the flop losing to a flush. Aces cracked. These things happen.

When these events happen to me I take 3 simple steps to get back on track:

Step 1 - Scream into a pillow

Step 2 - Punch the boxing bag

Step 3 - Take the dog for a walk

Trust me, this works, well for me anyway. Give it a try and you might find yourself playing more with money won, instead of busting out and starting all over again.

Good luck

I keep a stress ball close at hand. If I feel nervous are angry it works wonders for my focus.

it will be hard to build a bankroll from 40 cents. Keep playing the Cardschat free roll. I see they have 11 cent SNGs on carbon. You have enough for 3 of those. I have always found SNGs to be the easiest money. I especially like the double ups, if you can control the tilt and play very tight, you can build a BR. I once needed $500 to cash out on a cake site. That was the min cash out at that time. I played $26 double up SNGs and turned $79 into 500 in three weeks. the 11centers are not double ups, but when you get enough ahead, try it. In the meantime follow all the above advice

I believe the 11 cent sit n go's are the only games left you can play on carbon with a bankroll of 40cents very hard for me to get a head there. I would win a few then lose a few more, slow grind

I agree a lot with dj11. I can relate to this cause I just think I am not managing myself very well. On a late reg lasting 3 hrs and 45 min. I can build myself a very workable stack size but then falter right after this registration point and bleed myself out. One thing that I see stand out a lot is enjoying the game makes a huge difference in your mental make-up. What I am trying to really say is that holding up mentally towards late middle and late stages comes with managing yourself well here because there will be hands that are lost. How can you have good management if you are upset bout a hand and it was 5 hands ago? Maybe 10. After reading this thread my opinion of where I am on this has changed and I need to work on my management of myself. Thanks all for helping United cause it has helped me also.. Time to go to work..

Thank you for the advice guys! I really appreciate it!

Until I reach 25 (or 65 I think as of recently), I think I'll be stuck filling out bullshit surveys on PokerOwned and playing in those freerolls until I've gotten enough posts to enter the freerolls here :O but keeping this advice in mind while posting quality posts will definitely

Also, today played 3 11 cent Sit N' Go's and I've come to understand that I just am not aggressive enough with only 300 chips. I literally lost about half of them due to getting blinded off (admittedly, I wasn't exactly getting great hands, but I still felt weak with that small stack).

I guess that means I'll have to wait till I get to that 1.10$ so I can enter the Double or Nothing SnG. In the meantime I suppose I can sharpen my game from those PokerOwned freerolls and, if I can ever get the posts for them, CardsChat freerolls.

Thank's again for helping a beginner like me with your advice!

I think it will be a very long and hard road at these level's. why not earn some cash with a part time job and use some of that to give your bankroll a lift.

advice is to read a lot about poker, watch training videos, there are many pages, and especially to play the tournaments you have to have a lot of leverage your time pasiensia couple of good cards. regards

For good bankroll management, what u need is a strict set of principles...this is most important part of bank roll management....
IF u are a tourney player play only games where buy-in = ur cashroll/50
If u are a cash player my advice is that u have to stck to ring games with BB=ur cashroll/400.

Finally again the most important point is how strictly u follow ur rules !!!

as I am a new player still have zero bank would most like to know if someone here has any tips! to get a bankroll no deposit

Admitting that tilt controls your game means that your on your way to fixing it. There is no sure fire way, so just stay calm, walk away from cash games after you get steamed.

I think that continuing the freerolls is a great idea for experience. Treat them as though you paid in to them. When you bust out scrutinize that hand and see if you would have done anything differently. After a while you start to realize that even perfect play isn't always rewarded.

i think for building a solid bankroll you should just keep playing the freerolls until you reach around $25 and play the micro games.. nothing higher than that and slowly try to get on a good run and build up

Go find a part-time job. It won't take long to earn $100. This will save you a lot of time compared to building a $100 roll starting from freerolls.

Arjonius said:

Go find a part-time job. It won't take long to earn $100. This will save you a lot of time compared to building a $100 roll starting from freerolls.

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I guess I'll man up and put 100 in soon.

What stakes should I play in with that 100? Also, how does WU work with those guys anyway?

United said:

So I have recently made an account and played a bit on CarbonPoker with money made via freerolls (because they won't take my VISA and I don't have 100$ to send via Western Union).

Through a couple of freerolls and after a couple of losses at the tables, I am down to about 40 cents (which is quite alot when you start with nothing and your a 19 year old college student like me).

I intend to build a solid bankroll (via a few other freerolls this week), but every time I get even close to one, I go on a tilt and lose big.

What advice do you have for me?

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call your bank and ask for the international ban lifted this happened to me but when i had this lifted and cleared it wasnt fraud it was fine

dont tell them it is for poker just say you want to make an international online purchase it will work

malucado4545 said:

as I am a new player still have zero bank would most like to know if someone here has any tips! to get a bankroll no deposit

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just get backed if your good or save up money the amount of hours you will spend trying to grind freerolls is silly when you could save $50 easily and just play lowest stakes

United said:

I guess I'll man up and put 100 in soon.

What stakes should I play in with that 100? Also, how does WU work with those guys anyway?

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purely dependant on skill the better you are the less buyins you need

as roi goes up variance goes down


but to answer better how able are you to redeposit?

5nl seems reasonable and $1 sngs and maybe some smaller mtts

United said:

I guess I'll man up and put 100 in soon.

What stakes should I play in with that 100? Also, how does WU work with those guys anyway?

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Start at the lowest level available where you play. If you find you're a winning player at that level, you can move up soon enough. Otoh, if you're not, the only thing you would have accomplished by starting higher is to lose some if not all of your roll faster.

Since you tell us you are a new player, please understand that at ring tables 5NL means $0.02/$0.05. As in pennies. The 5 in 5NL comes from a standard FULL buy-in of 100 big blinds.

Trust us when we tell you to play that lowest level. Those pennies will fly away faster than you would think.

Could some one please tell me what ROI means I am new to this site and been seeing it a lot in some post. also what is HUD seen that a few times also

Skill ,Luck and gamble

kmichaels said:

If you can´t control yourself and easily go tilt my advise is learn to control those feelings otherwise the best thing for you is simply stop playing before you spent big money on in. Poker is not a game of emotions. It´s the opposite of it.

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I agree ,also remember poker is a game of skill and that luck factor is also there . Luck is something that runs out , you will get the guys that plays with luck and gamble alot . If you stick to your game and premium hands you will make it . have that self controle if you have badbeats dont get frustrated .focus focus focus