AQo, was this a correct fold?

Playing 2NL ring cash game early in session. Flop raised by UTG+1 everyone folds to me on button, I 3b with AQo and he 4b - I fold...

Right or wrong? happy to hear arguments for and against that. Did not have a read or stats on the villian. Both 100 bb stacks.

My thoughts: An early raise & 4b obviously represents a very strong hand. I figured that I would be way behind even vs a medium pair (which in that case villian played very wrongly). If he had called, I suppose that wouldn't have helped either come the flop, so maybe I should have folded to his raise immediately? But that feels wrong too, considering I was on the button and this is, after all, micro stakes.

Beasty2k said:

An early raise & 4b obviously represents a very strong hand.

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Yep deffo fold to the 4b without history on the guy.

Flatting he PF raise with AQ is fine since you have position.

Smart fold. Good discipline.

love stumbling along threads like this. If it was me, i wouldve raised all in, glad to see that it wouldve been the wrong call on my part.

Put me in the 'flat call at the first opportunity' group, see the flop as cheap as possible by closing the action after villains first raise.

Thanks for the replies guys. But I just tend to follow the advice of "never flat call" or "a hand good enough to call is a hand good enough to raise"... I really try to avoid flat calling.


If I called, and an A or a Q hit the flop, I would probably have to fold. Only flop I would play aggressively is AQx I suppose. So I still think it was correct to fold pf.

id call for sure and take a look at the flop,then id check it back to him to see what kind of a story hes trying to say,id probably call a continuation bet on the flop if i hit my ace or else i would just let it go. folding is also an option depends on how you feel and or how aggressive you think they may be cause remember they always might have a hand like JJ or AK and if u hit a Q on the flop u might be good.

vinylspiros said:

id call for sure and take a look at the flop,then id check it back to him to see what kind of a story hes trying to say,id probably call a continuation bet on the flop if i hit my ace or else i would just let it go. folding is also an option depends on how you feel and or how aggressive you think they may be cause remember they always might have a hand like JJ or AK and if u hit a Q on the flop u might be good.

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So you wouldn't 3b pf? Just flat call?

I would fold to UTG+1 first raise if I had stats on him that told me he was tight etc....would deffo fold to 4bet without stats if you are a conservative player.....if not then just flat the 4bet and see the flop and use your position for reads and act accordingly imo

I've done all of it with AQ - very situational and too easy to over value (but shoving???) - might have very well flatted his initial raise with no read or stats on him and made it an exploratory situation.

Flatting is probably best here. By 3 betting you fold out hands you beat like AJ, KQ and allow him to flat you with AK etc.

Beasty2k said:

So you wouldn't 3b pf? Just flat call?

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man there r so many variations of what u could of done.poker is very situational.so many things count when making a decision. same position same hand can always be a different decision.depending on stack,tourney,cash game,sit and go,position aggressiveness of opponent,,,,the list goes on for days.so i dont think there is a true good answer for any question of this type.poker is SITUATIONAL.

Flat preflop.

"A hand good enough to call with is good enough to raise with" is more related to limping versus opening preflop. A 3bet represents a different level of strength if you will. So preflop, just talking about value, you need a stronger hand to 3bet than you need to call a raise with than you need to open raise with.