**** April's Micro MTT Thread ****

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That's right! It is finally here and I am excited about it! (exclamation points always help)

Anyways this will be just like the cash thread in the learning section, and we will be discussing hands, strategy, and anything to do with Micro MTTs (Multi-Table Tournaments). Since this is a micro thread it will include everyone playing MTTs from .10c to 20$.

I really would like some members playing bigger MTTs to put your input in too. I'm looking at you Irexes. :) Even Zach, I know you are mainly cash but you play the bigger BI mtts.

So let's do this, post results, rants, and hands! Let's show us tournament players can own too! :):):):)
 
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just want to be the first to reply in this epic thread
 
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Will this be including the 45/90/180 games as well?

Also if you guys have some links to decent MTT strategy that would be goot. I wouldn't mind trying to improve My MTT play coz I suckz badz!
 
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I will make some contributions in this thread - since I am an MTT final tabler in training!
 
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I am really thinking about....

a.) making a video for LAG play (this is how I've been playing lately)

b.) righting an article on my unique style I like to call "L T L T"

My old mtt articles are really noobish so I wanna make a nice advanced aticle, and hopefully get some people that are ready to make the move to play more of a LAG game. But I will warn everyone that a LAG game is only for advanced players, a beggining mtt player cannot jump into this style.
 
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Try writing a strat about how to run into aces with big hands deep in tournies, you seem pretty good at that. I really hope this thread takes off for 2 reasons. 1. I can see that tournies aren't rigged and how money can be made from them, 2. I can come here to complain about tournies being rigged because i never win money at them
 
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Try writing a strat about how to run into aces with big hands deep in tournies, you seem pretty good at that. I really hope this thread takes off for 2 reasons. 1. I can see that tournies aren't rigged and how money can be made from them, 2. I can come here to complain about tournies being rigged because i never win money at them

I've already written a well thought out letter to support asking them to spread out my luck in mtts, instead of giving me a godly run the whole way up unto like the last 21 ppl. It might work, I will post later on how they respond.

Dear poker stars Support,

I thank you for letting me run hotter than the sun in some of my recent tournaments, but their is still an issue that I think we can both come to terms on. For example today in the 8$ rebuy I run like a god of all gods and man handle the mtt up until about 56 people left. Then I am dealt QQ and lose to AA, AIPF(all in pre flop)!? Another Example, I have 1.5 million with 26 ppl left in the 3$ rebuy and I am dealt AK. I go on to lose a 3 million chip pot to AQ, not to mention I ran like a kenyan at the olympics in this mtt too. So what I am hoping you can do is spread out my Luck just enough for me to win the right amount of flips, and other all in situations, mainly pre flop, in order for me to take down these MTTs and become a baller.

Thanks,
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Everyone knows the new PF bet is 2.5 X BB and not 3 X BB :)

But honestly it doesn't matter. I think the real worry with bet sizing is on the flop, turn, and river...and it can differ whether you are bluffing or betting for value obv.

So far what has been working for me especially when bluffing/c-betting the flop is too bet enough to get them to fold but not enough to be stuck/committed if they re-raise.
The point is to bet less just in case they are doing what a lot of beginner players do and check re-raise. Although sometimes a stronger bet, undoubtedly is needed in order to get someone to fold, we still want to minimize the amount of chips we can lose just in case we are caught or if we run into calling station(because we will most likely check the turn if they call and we don't improve)<------and this is the likely case, although double and tripple barrelling can be affective, it can also lose you a lot of chips and imo, should be used rarely, unless you have a solid read on them, usually missing a draw.

This same theory can be effective while stealing blinds when they get higher. In position, let's say,we are on the button and the blinds are 200/400. Now I am known to steal with ATC(any two cards) and will always depending on the SB and BB blind fold tendencies, will raise. Now just incase they play back and I will fold this theory is perfect since instead of betting 3 X the BB I bet lets say 2.5, i lose less, not a lot, but less. It's a well hidden min raise :)

Ok I'm done for now, ranting about this bet sizing stuff :)
 
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Everyone knows the new PF bet is 2.5 X BB and not 3 X BB :)

But honestly it doesn't matter. I think the real worry with bet sizing is on the flop, turn, and river...and it can differ whether you are bluffing or betting for value obv.

So far what has been working for me especially when bluffing/c-betting the flop is too bet enough to get them to fold but not enough to be stuck/committed if they re-raise.
The point is to bet less just in case they are doing what a lot of beginner players do and check re-raise. Although sometimes a stronger bet, undoubtedly is needed in order to get someone to fold, we still want to minimize the amount of chips we can lose just in case we are caught or if we run into calling station(because we will most likely check the turn if they call and we don't improve)<------and this is the likely case, although double and tripple barrelling can be affective, it can also lose you a lot of chips and imo, should be used rarely, unless you have a solid read on them, usually missing a draw.

This same theory can be effective while stealing blinds when they get higher. In position, let's say,we are on the button and the blinds are 200/400. Now I am known to steal with ATC(any two cards) and will always depending on the SB and BB blind fold tendencies, will raise. Now just incase they play back and I will fold this theory is perfect since instead of betting 3 X the BB I bet lets say 2.5, i lose less, not a lot, but less. It's a well hidden min raise :)

Ok I'm done for now, ranting about this bet sizing stuff :)
yeah, during the tourny my raises gradually go from 3bb to 2.25bb as the blinds to stack ratio get high

another point of betting less is that a 1/2 pot bet will usually get the same result as a 2/3 pot bet.this is so becuase a lot of players in these micro tournies dont really look at bet sizes, they usually make up their mind based on their hand and not about player types and metagame and such.
 
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Also I would like to also say to all the micro mtt players that Daniel Negreanu's new book is a good read(his part only(SMALL BALL)). It is a lot of info to digest but if you can gradually add little by little to your game and play SMALL BALL, you will win. If anyone or everyone wants to have a book discussion on his SMALL BALL section I am all for it!

Here are some vids also, for refrence and easy access....

Here is a sample of what pokervt is like....

YouTube - Daniel Negreanu's Small Ball Strategy


Some beginner stuff but also some small ball stuff, probably wont be able to get any good strategy vids unless you become a member at a number of poker schools online. Daniel recently posted in his blog that a new VT member won the Sunday Million by using his small ball strategy days after he learned and watched the videos on pokervt...so maybe worth a try?

Part 1 YouTube - learn to win at Texas Holdem (with Daniel Negreanu) 1of3

Part 2YouTube - learn to win at Texas Holdem (with Daniel Negreanu) 2of3

Part 3YouTube - learn to win at Texas Holdem (with Daniel Negreanu) 3of3

Some videos by Irexes if you haven't seen them yet....

https://www.cardschat.com/f53/33-mtt-part-1-starting-tournament-139670/

https://www.cardschat.com/f53/44-6max-mtt-16-left-250-a-144054/

https://www.cardschat.com/f53/44-mtt-6-max-down-13-a-140502/

https://www.cardschat.com/f53/22-rebuy-money-28-jan-2009-a-141632/

https://www.cardschat.com/f53/215-mtt-sunday-warm-up-1st-139810/

https://www.cardschat.com/f53/irexes-video-1st-hour-mtt-102433/

https://www.cardschat.com/f53/irexes-video-2-return-mtt-1st-102556/

https://www.cardschat.com/f53/irexes-video-3-2nd-hour-mtt-102583/

https://www.cardschat.com/f53/irexes-video-4-300k-mtt-103101/



ChuckTs 4$ 180 man, found this and never seen it myslelf and it is at the end of the mtt and the final table which is always good stuff....

https://www.cardschat.com/f53/4-180-seater-vid-99212/
 
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Nice thread.

Since I am getting serious again about poker and want to get back into playing micro-SNGs and micro-MTTs, I'll be posting a lot in this thread. Especially since I have a lot of experience with micro-stakes.

SNGs are my best game IMHO, but I have some wins and cashes in MTTs.
 
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Dont play alot of MTT´s these days but i imagine i will still post here.

Im in the 250K right now. Wise me luck :)
 
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Thanks Curtis - will check that out tomorrow.
 
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Great article KC, just like all good articles, I bookmarked it so I can easily keep looking over it. I am also Reading DN's new book and when I can focus on one thing at a time maybe I will finish it. I started, got a third of the way through (Daniel's section that is, I already read the other stuff...not bad but just eh), then I decided to restart with the ole' highlighter, and now am just getting back into the meat of it. If I can stop jumping between 3 and 4 different books, I'll get through it. I am gonna make a mental note to finish this week, so as long as I don't have to read it 10 times for it to soak, I'd gladly discuss or listen to others thoughts as well. Thanks for starting this thread and I will be checking things out here as much as possible. I feel that the little game I have is definately better in MTT than it is in cash games, so I am gonna try to focus on one thing at a time for once.
 
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Is anyone playing any tournies? I haven;t seen any HH or rants or anything?
 
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I played a .25c tourney to get back in to playing MTT.I made the final table.However I'm more of a cash game player.I always manage to get a decent stack in MTT.However I can never get over a certain amount till mid -late. in other words I stay with a average chip stack or a little below till about mid late in the tourney then make my move.It just everytime I make the final table I only get 7th.About a mth ago I played a .10 tourney got 3rd.I won't play any gtd tourney til I know I can get in the money on a consistent basic.
 
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The part of my game where I am struggling is when I get past the bubble ( it is good that I have worked my way past it lol). I still don't seem to know how to get deeper and how to change up my game at that point to try to go for the long stretch.

I have team viewer and Rex works with me some by letting my watch him at that stage of the tournament. If any of the rest of you could do the same it would be great. Or if you want to watch me at that stage and give some advice.

I will watch some of those videos above as well.

I play in at least one tournament most days so will get some hands posted in here. When I first started playing tournaments seriously a couple of months ago I was really focusing and was cashing in them on a regular basis - just not any big cashes.

I haven't done as well lately and I think I am rushing the tournaments and trying to get big plays in too often hoping to have a bigger chip stack if I make it to the money. I dunno - I need help lol.
 
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The part of my game where I am struggling is when I get past the bubble ( it is good that I have worked my way past it lol). I still don't seem to know how to get deeper and how to change up my game at that point to try to go for the long stretch.

I have team viewer and Rex works with me some by letting my watch him at that stage of the tournament. If any of the rest of you could do the same it would be great. Or if you want to watch me at that stage and give some advice.

I will watch some of those videos above as well.

I play in at least one tournament most days so will get some hands posted in here. When I first started playing tournaments seriously a couple of months ago I was really focusing and was cashing in them on a regular basis - just not any big cashes.

I haven't done as well lately and I think I am rushing the tournaments and trying to get big plays in too often hoping to have a bigger chip stack if I make it to the money. I dunno - I need help lol.
i wouldnt mind watching u play but i dont have a mic at this point in time. but im sure we can still work something out

it seems like u might need to loosen up a bit more in the later stages of the tournament, u should watch the vids done by daniel, he talks about small ball and its something that u need for later tournament play
 
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i wouldnt mind watching u play but i dont have a mic at this point in time. but im sure we can still work something out

Actually Rex and I usually just use msn to be honest. We have used the microphone as well but it is not totally necessary and sometimes msn can work fine for it. You don't get the dogs barking or the families talking in the background lol.

Microphones are better if you are playing a lot of tables but I don't do that.
 
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Actually Rex and usually just use msn to be honest. We have used the microphone as well but it is not totally necessary and sometimes msn can work fine for it. You don't get the dogs barking or the families talking in the background lol.

Microphones are better if you are playing a lot of tables but I don't do that.
ok cool, if u want to do it, just hit me up on msn :)
 
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Since I'm not playing at the moment, I can watch other members who need a bit of help play as well.

Especially with those playing $1 or less MTTs and $1-$2 SNGs. Though I'm probably best with 18-seat to 180-seat MTSNGs.
 
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