Anybody has experience with "Kill Phil" ?

Fahrenheit451

Fahrenheit451

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 8, 2013
Total posts
222
Awards
1
Chips
0
I began to try out this system about two years ago, because it was the simplest way to start playing tournament poker.
You make decisions based on your hole cards, your stack and opponents actions and then you go All In or fold.
This strategy works when player is short stacked.

So, I tried it out mainly two ways:
1) STT hyper speed tournaments (fast games, where you are short stacked from beginning)
2) different microstakes MTT

I could not become winning player in STT although I played strictly as advised. There was some good streaks and there was long bad streaks. I was slowly losing.
It looks like that in "pure" way system is not working. But it can be useful in tournament endings.

I win several times big in MTT, so my balance is positive, although MTT are much complex games.

Has anyone some experience with this method ?
 
A

Acunaaldje

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Aug 6, 2017
Total posts
127
Chips
0
I think it's the same as in roulette. There are also systems. Poker stays a game with chances, zo these is always a chance to lose.... Play with your kind, not with a system like this
 
thatguy6793

thatguy6793

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 10, 2017
Total posts
1,156
Awards
4
Chips
0
I actually really like the Kill Phil chart, I just found it by chance a while ago, but I agree that the fold or shove play is way to binary for something like poker. What I did do however is to adapt it and kinda form a hybrid with it and some other tournament methods to make a system that works really well for me and actually has shown some improvements in my game already. Basically for a really quick synopsis of what I did was keep the hand groups the same and the different tables for different handed games but I changed the CSI to more uniform stack distributions of big = >20X, med = 20-8X, small = <8X and moved around a few of the hand groups to match this a little better and then instead of shoving or folding I just add raises or calls based on some of the other MTT strategies I try to use. What I think the Kill Phil system excels at is being a good starting point to build a solid play style from and being very manipulatable like a empty tool belt to fill with other tools you might have or a nice scaffolding to build other strategies off of. I would recommend staying with the strategy but trying change it up in a way that makes it comfortable for you and possibly trying it on freerolls to see how it pans out and tweak it as you go. Hope that all is semi-understandable and helps you out!
 
A

AviCKter

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Aug 14, 2013
Total posts
781
Chips
0
1) STT hyper speed tournaments (fast games, where you are short stacked from beginning)
2) different microstakes MTT

I've read Kill Everyone (updated version of Kill Phil). The thing about Hyper turbos is that you'll experience a lot of variance and as the strategy of the book, it encourages a little variance; so when you hit, you'll be hitting big, but it will be accompanied with a long streak of losses (as you already have experienced).
 
A

AlexTheOwl

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Aug 22, 2017
Total posts
860
Chips
0
I've read Kill Phil and Kill Everyone, though it's been a while.

Cannot recommend Kill Phil. It was written for an era when passive play was the norm, and was outdated the day it was published (about ten years ago), never mind today. Clever title though.

Kill Everyone came out a few years later and is a much better book. Although it's a sequel of sorts, you don't need to have read Phil to read Everyone.
 
Fahrenheit451

Fahrenheit451

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 8, 2013
Total posts
222
Awards
1
Chips
0
Thanks to everyone who answered !

All answers was valuable.
I decided to put aside attempts to win in STT and switch to MTT using KP only when short stacked.
I also will study deep stack tournament strategies and try to stay deep stacked as long as possible (as opposed to KP where you only play when you are short stacked) ;)
 
R

Rational Madman

Legend
Platinum Level
Joined
Jan 11, 2017
Total posts
2,478
Chips
0
I honestly believe that in tournament poker the only wrong strategy is no strategy... Unlike cash games, tournament poker rewards mistakes immensely when lucky and punishes good plays brutally if the cards work against you.

There is literally no link between IQ and tournament profit but with cash games I guarantee low Iq players cannot prosper but it is possible high intelligence player can defeat genius due to raw practise and bluff ranging.
 
Top