Am I making the wrong moves?!

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ahfta

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Ok, maybe this is just variance and I know bad beats happen. More so in a ftp game with plenty of fish getting ready to go all in with a 7-2... It just seems like this has happened about 4 or 5 times today, I know my first mistake is depositing minimal amounts of money to my bankroll, ill deposit 10-20 dollars here and there and play till i get sucked out.. I know it adds up, but spur of the moment it is easier to justify than dropping 100$ on the 1st or 15th.

Earlier I had pocket duece, i call a small pre flop raise and hit the set on the flop... the flop I believe was 2-4-8 the turn - 8 - was basically rainbowed so I wasnt worried about the flush draw, plus just making a full house I knew I had it, someone would have to have the pocket 4's or pocket 8's to beat me... I put my opponet on a set figured he had the 4 or 8 and he had been an aggressor at the table. he raises me the pot and i shove all in, about 3x the pot... he being the chip leader calls, he flips over 8-A and I figure i got it, too easy... He hits the A on the river and completes the better boat... I dont play stupid and when I shove I know I have the nuts... (at the time) I dont see how my play can be at fault other than my horrible BRM and lack of trust in depositing a decent amount of $ could mitigate these scenarious. Any thoughts ideas or suggestions are welcome.. shit...


full tilt poker Game #29236804127: 20 FTP Sat to Sun. Brawl Sat (227356619), Table 19 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:01:45 CT - 2011/03/21 [00:01:45 ET - 2011/03/22]
Seat 1: ahfta (2,180)
Seat 2: BrokenSureal (890)
Seat 4: Makai Nalu (1,335)
Seat 5: hausmarke99 (3,415)
Seat 6: Chef Aldo55 (2,275)
Seat 7: kjo1939 (80)
Seat 8: gonzosapo (2,175)
Seat 9: GZgunner (3,250)
BrokenSureal posts the small blind of 30
Makai Nalu posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ahfta [Kc Ks]
hausmarke99 folds
Chef Aldo55 raises to 510
kjo1939 calls 80, and is all in
gonzosapo folds
GZgunner folds
ahfta raises to 960
BrokenSureal folds
Makai Nalu folds
Chef Aldo55 raises to 2,275, and is all in
ahfta calls 1,220, and is all in
Chef Aldo55 shows [7c 7h]
kjo1939 shows [Qc 8s]
ahfta shows [Kc Ks]
Uncalled bet of 95 returned to Chef Aldo55
*** FLOP *** [6h 8h Kh]
*** TURN *** [6h 8h Kh] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [6h 8h Kh Th] [5c]
Chef Aldo55 shows a flush, King high
ahfta shows three of a kind, Kings
Chef Aldo55 wins the side pot (4,200) with a flush, King high
kjo1939 shows a pair of Eights
Chef Aldo55 wins the main pot (330) with a flush, King high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,530 Main pot 330. Side pot 4,200. | Rake 0
Board: [6h 8h Kh Th 5c]
Seat 1: ahfta (button) showed [Kc Ks] and lost with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 2: BrokenSureal (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Makai Nalu (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: hausmarke99 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Chef Aldo55 showed [7c 7h] and won (4,530) with a flush, King high
Seat 7: kjo1939 showed [Qc 8s] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 8: gonzosapo didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: GZgunner didn't bet (folded)
 
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Ok, maybe this is just variance and I know bad beats happen. More so in a ftp game with plenty of fish getting ready to go all in with a 7-2... You answered your own question here.....:D

It just seems like this has happened about 4 or 5 times today, I know my first mistake is depositing minimal amounts of money to my bankroll, ill deposit 10-20 dollars here and there and play till i get sucked out..

I know it adds up, but spur of the moment it is easier to justify than dropping 100$ on the 1st or 15th.

Earlier I had pocket duece, i call a small pre flop raise and hit the set on the flop... the flop I believe was 2-4-8 the turn - 8 - was basically rainbowed so I wasnt worried about the flush draw,

plus just making a full house I knew I had it, someone would have to have the pocket 4's or pocket 8's to beat me... I put my opponet on a set figured he had the 4 or 8 and he had been an aggressor at the table. he raises me the pot and i shove all in, about 3x the pot... he being the chip leader calls, he flips over 8-A and I figure i got it, too easy... He hits the A on the river and completes the better boat... I dont play stupid and when I shove I know I have the nuts... (at the time) I dont see how my play can be at fault other than my horrible BRM and lack of trust in depositing a decent amount of $ could mitigate these scenarious. Any thoughts ideas or suggestions are welcome.. shit...

10-20$ or 100$ is the same, if you are playing the same stakes in either case, and in the former are willing to deposit another 10-20 when the first is gone.

20 +20+20+20+20=100 if ya know what I mean. IMO if you are willing to go the 100 in increments, just deposit it all at once. Having that psychological padding to your BR may make you play with more confidence as a normal small downswing with a BR of 20 means "OMG I lost 1/2 my BR" which puts an unconscious pressure that you may not have if your BR goes from 98 to 88.

Your bet sizing on the KK was a bit odd to me, but it worked in the end, as you WANT him to push you all in here. So your play got the desired result, and the end result of the hand are inconvenient but unimportant.

If you are constantly losing you BR, it is almost certainly not due to fish going all in with 2-7 (that is good) but due to your inexperience in poker as a whole (I am not trying to be mean or arrogant, just saying) Your statement which I put in bold above is my clue to saying this. (as the situation you mentioned not being probable is VERY desirable, so a shame it WASNT that way.....) even tho it is clear you know a FH beats the flush.
 
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with the hand example shown i feel you should have been aware of the flush potentional at the turn. Even though you had 3 of a kind it was staring you in the face. Don't hope he doesnt have it. If you think he does, you will lose less because before you put all your money in the middle, you say the odds him having a better hand isn't worth the loss.
 
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with the hand example shown i feel you should have been aware of the flush potentional at the turn. Even though you had 3 of a kind it was staring you in the face. Don't hope he doesnt have it. If you think he does, you will lose less because before you put all your money in the middle, you say the odds him having a better hand isn't worth the loss.

All the chips were in before the flop.

With the KK nothing much more you could've done apart from being the first to go all in rather than the re-raise to 960, may have put him off if you were all in first, but you got it in good and got a bad beat, forget about it and move on.
 
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Yea, I guess its just I remember the loses alot more vividly than I do the wins... I could tell you every hand that I went all in with and blew it but couldnt tell you one where I won...
 
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Well it doesnt matter. Its +EV for you. You will win more than you lose.
 
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