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Why do people do this, to me it makes no sense.
If you have a really good hand then it scares people from making bets meaning you take a big risk for not much gain.

If you have a crap hand then that to me is even more dumb.

Often the result is someone doing it has AA, I still do not get the reason for doing it though. Am I missing something basic?
 
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freerolls and cheap MTT's only, for smb its test of luck but for smb its move for multipot denied
 
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I used to do this pretty often at 10NL and under. If you have your table presence solidified as LAG or TAG and there is a spewy player or someone you think will spew who has already raised, why not go for it? It seems like when I try this I get called about 50% of the time, which makes up for the smart people who insta fold. Basically I'm saying there are a lot of bad players, and if you can identify them and get in situations where they clearly want to play the hand, you can punish them by going pre with AA.
 
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it often happens in freerolls and so on but i dont understand what you are wanting to know about that théme...
 
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I used to do this pretty often at 10NL and under. If you have your table presence solidified as LAG or TAG and there is a spewy player or someone you think will spew who has already raised, why not go for it? It seems like when I try this I get called about 50% of the time, which makes up for the smart people who insta fold. Basically I'm saying there are a lot of bad players, and if you can identify them and get in situations where they clearly want to play the hand, you can punish them by going pre with AA.

I actually do this too. How often do they actually figure you're going to make some ridiculous 100+bb's 3bet squeeze shove & actually have 'AA' lol. It's amazing how often you'll get looked up. I find it's alot better to do it on the 'zoom' 'speed' 'rush' micro tables (it's the only place I do it).
 
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Why do people do this, to me it makes no sense.
If you have a really good hand then it scares people from making bets meaning you take a big risk for not much gain.

If you have a crap hand then that to me is even more dumb.

Often the result is someone doing it has AA, I still do not get the reason for doing it though. Am I missing something basic?

It really depends on the particular scenario. There are many, many, many times when getting it allin pre is the best move to make in the given situation.
 
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It's my ritual to announce my entry.

Lol joking, I sometimes do it to shake the table a little bit. If i know that nobodys going to call i do it and it has good results: tilts the table, meaning that there will be a distribution of wealth.
 
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All in preflop depends on position and situation size of blinds how playrs at table react etc.
 
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All in preflop depends on position and situation size of blinds how playrs at table react etc.

Same thinking :D if there are many people love raising at the table, you'll get good result for sure. anyway in tournaments people usually call because they often wait for luck to take more chips.
 
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Same thinking :D if there are many people love raising at the table, you'll get good result for sure. anyway in tournaments people usually call because they often wait for luck to take more chips.

+1!
 
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alot of sucky players just come in for an open raise AI with aces because they simply don't know any better and miss out on tons of value, an all in is ok if there has been action already in front but if not you need to try squeeze out some value
 
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I try all in once in a while often with succes. But I lost one yesterday.

I am in small blind everybody folds i call bb raise all in i fold

The same happens the next time i was in big blind.

And then for the third time in a row. This time i call all in with AQo and lose to A9o.

Was that i mistake by me?
 
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all in pre flop seems scare... all in pre flop is easier for scared people
 
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I try all in once in a while often with succes. But I lost one yesterday.

I am in small blind everybody folds i call bb raise all in i fold

The same happens the next time i was in big blind.

And then for the third time in a row. This time i call all in with AQo and lose to A9o.

Was that i mistake by me?
In my opinion, Not "all-in" so many times at a table. Just all in when you left few chips, when you had much more chips than other players you can fall in the game's traps. If you had good cards, you should raise maybe.
 
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99% of the times I go all in preflop with pocket before I blind as two pair and I end up losing tabs
 
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Hi !

In my experience there are too many calling Stations and LAG players in Freerolls and most of MTTs with BI under $10... So it does make sense to go AI with AA or even KK ... yes in 99% someone is gonna call you anyway so why no to go AI preF .

If you try if after the Flop, you are risking that they have make set or 2 pairs and be hopping for set of Aces is you not gonna happen to often.

Pocket Aces are premium hand preFlop, after the Flop they are just one

Therefore in this two scenarios I would go AI with then.

Other thing is playing MTTs with "solid players" were ou should be going for value but that is absolutely different story

Good Luck @TAbles !
 
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player having had high cards such as AA or KK catching the weaker players trying to provoke them and lost in their stack
 
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The number of reasons for shoving pre- are just as high, or as low, as the number of reasons for not shoving pre-.

As with most everything else in poker... it depends...
 
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I don't prefer go all-in pre. Sometimes in low buy in tournament with monster card when on table are some fish i try to double up
 
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Only bad players go all-in every hand they see high cards. Reasons for going all-in pre flop are short stack, short stack and only short stack. If u feel like u can go all-in for other reasons such as pot steal or other it`s a better idea to do it after you see the flop and u r in late position or maybe on dealer button. You can suxesfully steal the pot by only betting abit more that usual on the table u play on and still play safe by not going all-in.
Many annoying players go all-in with every good hand they have. After winning lots of chips being lucky they lose the same amount of chips or even more in the same way they got them.
 
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I only play all in preflop when I have a short stack and when the blinds are high enough. When it makes sense to steal the blinds than I try a all in preflop, but I think it's almost very risky.
 
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Guy was going all in at the live game.
It wasn't even to steal the blinds, as there was only SB/BB.
He got no callers. Made $3. This happened more than once.

Seems silly.
At least 3-bet someone with your all in so you can take their raise
 
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It really just depends for me what my table image is what the blinds are,what level I am playing at,what my chip stack is like etc.
I will rarley try to get all mine in the middle preflop,but instead make A real hefty bet when the table dynamics are right I will slow play big hands etc.
It just really depends on the situation.
If I am short stacked in A tournament say under 15 bb ,I will certainly shove almost any PP bigger than 8/8 if not any PP, If Im in good shape on chips I will try to optimize my value out of my hand...
Just alot of factors to go into this question .
 
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