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Maid Marian

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As most people probably know, I'm fairly new to poker...just starting my 8th week. When you go 'All-in', why does it wipe you out when you lose, while others still have some remaining after losing 'All-in'? I'm sure it's a fairly reasonable answer, but it makes no sense to me yet.Thanks for your help.:confused:
 
Stick66

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As most people probably know, I'm fairly new to poker...just starting my 8th week. When you go 'All-in', why does it wipe you out when you lose, while others still have some remaining after losing 'All-in'? I'm sure it's a fairly reasonable answer, but it makes no sense to me yet.Thanks for your help.:confused:
In a 1-on-1 pot, a player can only win what is equal to the lowest stack of either player. EX: Let's say everyone folds to you and you have $60 that you put all-in. I'm next and I call but I only have $40. If I win, I can only win $40 since that's all I have to risk. It wouldn't be fair if I only risked $40 but won all your $60, would it?

It's the way online poker software depicts it that is confusing. If it were live poker and you shoved 60 and I called w/my 40, you would get to physically pull back 20 before the next card since the 20 wouldn't be at risk.

Now it gets more confusing when there is 3 or more players all-in and they all have different stack amounts. But I'll let you digest the above part first. :)
 
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^^^ Yeah.

If Player-A shoves for $123, and Player-B shoves for $300, and everyone else folds, then Player-A is can only win $123 of Player-B's stack, so the remaining $177 goes back to Player-B.


To make it morecomplex...
Lets say Maid Marian goes all-in for $1,000. All her chips go into the pot.
MrSticker has good cards and wants to isolate, going all-in for his $2,000. All his chips go into the pot.
I look down and see Kings, so I go all-in for my $3,000. All my chips go into the pot.
Dakota-xx with $4,000 dislikes her hand in the small blind and folds.
Enty with $5,000 (rigged!) dislikes his hand in the big blind and folds.

If Maid Marian wins, she can only get $1,000 from MrSticker and $1,000 from me, plus she takes the blinds and any antes as that's all part of the main pot she was a part of.
So if she won, there would appear to be $3,000 left in a side pot between MrSticker and I. (Because MrSticker put in $1,000 more than she could take, and I put in $2,000 more than she could take) But MrSticker is only entitled to $1,000 of what I went all-in with, because he only put in $1,000 into that side pot.
So if MrSticker wins that hand he gets $2,000 and the remaining $1,000 gets returned to me. (I still lost $2,000 that hand, $1k to each player)

The reason my entire stack was pushed into the pot even though I had $1,000 more than MrSticker is because Dakota-xx and Enty had me covered so they get to see how much they can potentially win. When I go all-in I can potentially lose my entire $3k. But as soon as they both folded, I knew that no matter what happened I'd be getting $1,000 back.
 
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Theblueduce

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Well stated. Good luck in your endevors.
 
Maid Marian

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Thanks so much for the advice! That makes much more sense to me now...it will help me with my betting in the following tourneys! I think I would have made it higher than #15 today in the Twitter Freeroll if I had known those facts! Again, thanks alot!:D
 
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