Advice after this....

Was in a Live SNG last night (local area). 16 people (8 per table). 5k starting chips. start blinds 50/100 every 15 minutes

2nd blind level in 100/200)(all 16 still in) current chip stack about 6.5k, On the button with KK, 2 limpers prior, raise 3X. SB and BB fold along with 1st caller. 2nd caller pushes his 3.5k in, I think it over for a minute or 2 and then call.

All in goes "I can't believe you called" and flips over 22. Turning over my KK and overjoyed until the first card flopped is a 2. Blank out. (steaming at this point).

Which doesn't help the following issue I had, Deal comes around I'm on the SB with TT. Prior action 4 limpers and still the BB to act. I'm completely sure I wasn't thinking straight. Blinds are now 200/400 I have 2.5k, I debated on just pushing all in, just calling or raising....I went with a 1.2k bet and then proceeded to get 3 callers. Flop was KQ8. I checked 1 caller beat then the other reraised all in. I simply folded.

The more I look back on it, I believe i completely misplayed everything and wasn't really thinking straight.

What I was wondering is this:

How can you get over a bad beat fast enough to think straight enough on another hand like I had in SB?

Any thoughts I'd appreciate it.

(I busted out shortly later with 77)

Take some deep breaths & just work really hard at trying to get 'in the now'. Emotions really suck on the tables.... it is my own biggest leak by far (although it's getting better). For myself it's just taken ALOT of work & over a period of time it's gradually getting better (still alot more work to go).
I haven't really had it ever affect my play to a degree where I'm making bad decisions in tournament poker (ie. bet-sizing, not making adjustments for re-steal stacks, shove/fold game etc.)... BUT it still negatively affects my game for sure.

Take your time. Do some deep breathing. Try to think of something that will take your mind off it momentarily (ie. sitting on a beach by the ocean, climbing a mountain, etc.,.. whatever does it for ya).

I usually use the saying "Ok, back to work".

I think it might have just been last night getting dinged early. After seeing TT, I went ok I can make some back and then that went wrong... I think it just piled up.

Live and learn.

Slide 1 With 10 10, and 4 limpers ahead. I would just call 200 and hope to hit a set. If not, I fold and wait for a better spot to shove.

Second choice is to shove. But with 2200 already in the pot, you are bound to get called. You gotta hope that someone calls you with a lower pair, otherwise if someone calls with even just QJ, it’s a coin flip. And it’s very likely you’d get more than 1 caller to your shove.

With a middle of nowhere raise, you aren’t gonna scare anyone with a halfway decent hand off.

Yep. the more I reflected on this over the last 2 days, I came to the conclusion I should have just called. I can see where my emotions got the better of me during that moment.

Hopefully I'll learn from this and be better on it in the near future

If you just keep playing, you will have less emotion when you get bad beats, because you will always encounter them every once in a while, and they will be more frequent the more you play . . . I know with 10/10 and 2.5k left i would just push and hope for the best because 95% of the time you will not find a better hand to push with before you get blinded out.

blueskies said:

Slide 1 With 10 10, and 4 limpers ahead. I would just call 200 and hope to hit a set. If not, I fold and wait for a better spot to shove.

Second choice is to shove. But with 2200 already in the pot, you are bound to get called. You gotta hope that someone calls you with a lower pair, otherwise if someone calls with even just QJ, it’s a coin flip. And it’s very likely you’d get more than 1 caller to your shove.

With a middle of nowhere raise, you aren’t gonna scare anyone with a halfway decent hand off.

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What's wrong with getting called by someone when it's a race? He's only got 6bb's.. this is PERFECT spot to put the pile in. (stacks aren't deep enough to 'call' in hopes of set mining)

With KK, you should usually aim to thin the field since you'd prefer to have only one opponent. Raising 3x when there are two limpers isn't all that likely to accomplish this. The most common suggestion is 3x plus 1 BB per limper.

So the first thing is to recognize that you played your KK hand less than optimally even though it's not difficult to say the result may well have been the same.

Extending this, try to focus more on whether you made good decisions, and less on the results. Doing so won't mean you don't react when you take a beat, but it will help you react less badly. This will be a process, not an instant transformation, and it happens at different speeds for different people.

The TT hand is also one you could have played better. With 6BB, just ship it or fold.

The KK situation, I kept telling myself I got it in with the best hand and just took a bad break. Saying it and following it through always seem easier after the fact.

The TT I realize that I probably made an error due to the KK/22 hand.

Realizing my mistakes is the first step. Working it out from here on is the next one.

You need to work really hard and take some deep breaths. This is what my experience says.. For me it takes lot of work. I didn't play it since last few months.

Start playing again the next day and think about what you did wrong and don't do it again.

Played again last night in the weekly tourney. Did a lot better. No major beats though.

finished out at 5th (ran out of gas lol) out of 32.

Played TT in the SB again though LOL. Had a 2X raise from the cutoff. I just called (along with 1 other). Flopped the high set, turned a Boat. Got it all in with 2 callers. (this happened early). (One had the turned set, the original raiser had QQ)

The only one I regret but made the right move (I think). Cutoff Made it 3X to go. I was on Button had Ah3d, I folded. He got 2 callers. Flop was KhQhTh. Turn was Jh (for my folded Royal Straight FLush). Then the river was a 4h for a board flush.

Seriously... really....come on... LOL. All 3 were still in on the river. They manage to all chop the rather nice pot.

Oh well.

Shove with the TT.

Raise more pre with limpers in the pot. Making it 3x with 2 limpers in already is giving people great odds. A general rule would be 3x + 1BB/limper but against these guys 5x+1BB/limper seems about right because you should only be doing it for value because they're not folding to bluffs and they're calling way too wide.

Keep playing with these people, they're horrible and should be a fairly reliable source of $$s.

I got wiped out in a simalar situation But i pushed all in from the start with 9000 chips got flat called hit my ace king and got stumped by the 2 at the end 3 twos.Hang in ther mate it happends to all of us.

with limpers, as you said there were few, you must be agressive both with KK and TT...
at least i think...
but would you be happy with only blinds with pocket kings?

Hordling said:

How can you get over a bad beat fast enough to think straight enough on another hand like I had in SB?

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For me, it just came with playing more and more. The first time you cop a beat like that it's horrible. Same the second, third and fourth times.

When it's happening for the hundredth or thousandth time though, when you've put in a lot more hours and almost certainly had your own underpair suck out on a few occasions, then it just becomes another hand.

Snapcall the first hand and shove the second one preflop FWIW. And remember that a live tournament with 15 minute levels where you only start with 50 big blinds will play just as fast as (if not faster than) an online turbo so look to make good preflop push-fold decisions if you want to win.

OzExorcist said:

For me, it just came with playing more and more. The first time you cop a beat like that it's horrible. Same the second, third and fourth times.

When it's happening for the hundredth or thousandth time though, when you've put in a lot more hours and almost certainly had your own underpair suck out on a few occasions, then it just becomes another hand.

Snapcall the first hand and shove the second one preflop FWIW. And remember that a live tournament with 15 minute levels where you only start with 50 big blinds will play just as fast as (if not faster than) an online turbo so look to make good preflop push-fold decisions if you want to win.

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Working on putting in the time. Each time I feel a bit more comfortable.

You do make a good point about it being just as quick... before I know it's an hour or so in and the break is coming up and I notice I need chips. Never really thought about it that way.

Thanks.

stay patient your time will come, poker is a game of patience, the more bad beats you can survive the better the poker player you wil become