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Im experimenting with different ways to play a pair of aces but Im wondering if I should be slow playing them or not. More times than not im in ok position and I am usually a tight aggressive player but it seems every time I try to put all my chips in and catch a donk-lackin everyone folds. Id like to get the most value from my hand but i seem to just be scooping up a few blinds. Im doing this on free rolls so the players are wild as hell for the most part. Any tips or advice will be very much appreciated.
 
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Playing tight on freerolls, seems weird to me. Because a lot of players are playing a lot of hands, I would suggest you to play more hands. Or at least with the hands that you decide to play, play them till the end, since you do not trust your enemies.
 
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Slow-playing Aces on freerolls (or most other games for that matter) is a recipe for disaster, if you ask me. You want the other players to be committed to their hands. That's difficult to achieve when it costs them next to nothing to stay in (and get the opportunity to turn their 72 hand into two pair). In fact, I just saw a guy win a big hand with 72.

I would suggest a normal opening bet (around 3.5 BB). If you get called, then you can probably get the guy(s) to throw some more money in post. If you don't get called, you probably weren't going to get much anyway. If you limp in, you increase the chances of having multiple opponents, which also increases the chances of getting beat by much weaker starting hands.

Here's two examples of players slow-playing pocket Aces - both ended up losing:

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/19215872_591CD21AE5
http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/19217035_AD66ED1A8E

Sadly, the second one was me not taking my own advice. It CAN be enticing.
 
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Don't slow play monsters. That is only the start of a bad beat storey. Maybe if you have a crazy on your left that loves to reraise everything you could slow play pre with that hope. I have lost to many small suited 1 gappers and such that came along for the cheap price and managed to draw out on their flush or straight. No more if they draw out they have paid the full price to do so.
 
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never limp on with AA, always do a 2.5+ BB raise then it all depends how the flop goes to slow play at that point but it is usually better to always put something in the pot and get value
 
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I agree with the comments above. Do not limp with AA in freerolls ! Raise with 3BB or more in case if somebody limped in before you, reraise if somebody raised before you. A lot of players are playing with crazy cards on freerolls. I often see players going allin with 9-2, 8-3 ,etc crazy hands...
 
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3BB or 4BB is my raise with AA. The pot amount is relative the level of the tourney you are in. I would rather pick up blinds and opening bets and not get value for the hand than get suckered in and have the aces cracked.
 
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3BB or 4BB is my raise with AA. The pot amount is relative the level of the tourney you are in. I would rather pick up blinds and opening bets and not get value for the hand than get suckered in and have the aces cracked.
lol.

Seriously, I actually laughed out loud at how stupid this is.
 
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It really depends on the sort of tournament. Seriously, in freerolls hardly anybody cares about opponent's cards because there is nothing to lose. A careful opening with 3BB would perhaps be the best. In my opinion AA in freerolls are less worth than in other buy-in tournaments. I often lost with Aces against stupid combinations...
 
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i lost with aces three times in a row in a free roll
 
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Bubble boy here. Only Aces I say, and all in.
 
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I just lost with AA in an ACR freeroll. Player opened all-in UTG with 23 suited and hit a flush. Not a whole lot i could do about it. I would suggest AA all-in in freerolls since so many people call with any whatever hand usually if its suited and sometimes they dont hold up anyways but when they do you have a better chance of making the final table. I slow played AA a few days ago with 2 players and Q high flop, both players had a Q, everyone all in on the flop and one of them hit a J on the turn for 2 pair. I dont know if they would have folded if i would have raised pre-flop but it is possible that i would have won the hand. Just saw AA go down to 47 unsuited with a 4-flush on the board. Seems to happen all the time but this is a freeroll.
 
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AA preflop with a raise post-flop depending on the situation, but the AA do not guarantee profit
 
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Im experimenting with different ways to play a pair of aces but Im wondering if I should be slow playing them or not. More times than not im in ok position and I am usually a tight aggressive player but it seems every time I try to put all my chips in and catch a donk-lackin everyone folds. Id like to get the most value from my hand but i seem to just be scooping up a few blinds. Im doing this on free rolls so the players are wild as hell for the most part. Any tips or advice will be very much appreciated.

Freerolls are bingo so don't feel too bad. You should be raising a standard amount 2-3bbs for every hand so an observant villain won't be able to distinguish your suited connector from your monster pair. So my advice is to raise 3 bbs with aces, if people limp raise another 1 or 2 big blinds per limiter. If someone raises, 3bet the pot, making sure the persons who bet dont have great odds because they'll call ATC for the right odds. The idea is to 1) extract value 2) isolate the field (AA is only 80% favorite to win against a single person) and 3) follow the opponents story and know when you're beat .

Eg: you are handed aces in cutoff position, 9 handed table, let's say even stacks. Utg+1 calls UTG+2 raises 5 bbs making the pot about 7.5 bbs and it folds to you. Id be raising the pot. Now utg+1 folds flop is K 9 T utg checks you raise 75% the pot, villain calls turn is j and villain raises time to gtfo because your 80% just became 8% as QA is fit right into villains range. This all connects with observing and categorizing opponents based on play style.

Also as always open to corrections or any type of comments related to my post.
 
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Never slow play Aces unless you are Heads Up or in the small blind with all action folded and you know the big blind is very aggresive
 
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slow playing your aces will lead to you losing more often never let stupid cards get a free look you'll regret it
 
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hope for at least 1 caller for your all in shove with aces , is one of the best things you can do .
 
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#16 post is very good imo.

I think It depends how much raise. If let's say 4 guys limped , you're on the button , your 3bb bet will be much easier to call even with marginal hand because they already put money in the pot so in this spot I'm always raising more (like 5-6bb to knockout at least one guy out of the hand).

And if I play from early position 3bb bet is good , I think no reason to bet like crazy because you don't know how many people will put money in the pot.
 
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the easiest answer is you should play them to maximize your value

the other major consideration is stack depth, generally the deeper you are the more aggressively you should play them - ie with 1000 blinds raise big, with 10 big blinds limp
 
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is a low risk play or pass crouch with a pair of aces is best to always play with a raise and wait a tribeteo since it ensures play against a strong hand that you're probably going to win
 
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i had my aces cracked two times in a row
 
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Playing with aces against you must be one or two enemies. So raise to 3.5 BB good advice.
 
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I hate losing with AA. You can lose with aces if you try to set a trap (happened to me alot) thats why you should bet 3bet or higher to get some players out first! after that you can stil trap by just checking.. but the chance that you lose to a lucky low hand is smaller
 
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I'm very bad at playing Aces, I play them too slow most of the time.
I'm mostly playing freerolls so even when I bet 4BB I get called by weak hands that beat me later on. I think I should play very aggressive in Freerolls.
 
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