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I post this question here since the answer seems pretty obvious to me, but I would like to get some comments.

Would you always want to get all the money in the pot preflop when you hold AA?
I would say for sure in cash games since one can always buy in again in case of bad beats.
What about in tournaments? I mean one cannot have a better hand preflop but would you risk getting out? Personally I think I would...


Thanks for sharing your thoughts
 
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At the cash game it is clear that playing with the AA hand is easier. In tournaments it's quite another matter. Much depends on the importance of the tournament. In freerolls in general, a great opportunity to lose. Then nothing will help you if the fish called your raise or allin.
 
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Hi gabripoker,

I agree with 'redmast' in that they are totally different but the same in trying to gain as much value as you can while not allowing drawing hands to come and bite you. You certainly want to raise and depending on your position, re-raise or even all in. You definitely don't want limping hands to knock out your aces. These will come from experienced members putting you on the top 5 hands and while in position making a sick call so watch out!
 
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how i play a-a in mtt,s is table depenendant,,the goal is to extract max value from villians or villain,all-in is not always the best option ,sometimes 4-8 bb,s is enough,nothing worse than pushing all-in with a-a to have everyone fold
 
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Thank you all for your thoughts.
The question though was more intended like: in theory, if you could, would you want to go all in preflop all the time?
I guess the answer that generally makes sense is yes.
 
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Sometime's raise allin can scary your opponent and when he fold you be angry for that. I would be angry of that situation. AA is the best hand on preflop but you can also loose with this best pair. Every game is different so you must try to understand play of your opponent's if he don't want play allin on preflop make 3-4 or more bet at preflop and later get him into battle but be carefull - your opponent can hit some monster! ;)
 
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[AA, the same hand, if you're with A, got it pre-flop
 
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Standard open raises or 3-bet or 4-bet with AA in tournaments. Go to the all-in with AA does not make sense. Of course, if your stack is less than 20bb, then you can go to all-in in pre-flop.
 
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I would suggest always try to get in as much as possible with AA preflop. You are always starting this hand in an advantageous position which is what poker is all about.
 
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I post this question here since the answer seems pretty obvious to me, but I would like to get some comments.

Would you always want to get all the money in the pot preflop when you hold AA?
I would say for sure in cash games since one can always buy in again in case of bad beats.
What about in tournaments? I mean one cannot have a better hand preflop but would you risk getting out? Personally I think I would...


Thanks for sharing your thoughts

In my perspective, no matter what the situation is I would always want to put all my money in with two aces.
 
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I've folded AA in certain sit n go ICM/bubble spots. It's nice when you try to induce with AA/KK and it works. I feel like that has not been the case for me lately. lol. My graph is taking a dip.
 
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It depends on what mode you are playing. In tournaments, sometimes I go all-in because I know there are several bad players who will pay with good cards. If I am in a tournament where the level of play is better, raise preflop or limp to make 3bet then depending on the situation
 
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I've folded AA in certain sit n go ICM/bubble spots. It's nice when you try to induce with AA/KK and it works. I feel like that has not been the case for me lately. lol. My graph is taking a dip.

I think that is very bad play.Why would you fold AA in sit n go preflop when in sit n go shoving ranges are so wide...So what if its bubble or payjump spot in sit n go its not much diffrance between 18 and 7 place, goal is to take first place not to just return buy in.
 
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Depends on how much the opponent is calling 4Bet
 
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I think for the most part it's the same strategy, until you come into the money and the pay jumps matter to you more than winning a hand. It's all up to you in the end, does the money jumps matter or are you only in it to get 1st.
 
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Personally, I think I would play in many ways, because it depends a lot on the situation of the moment, which position I am playing, with how much of a stack I am at the moment. But your question is obvious, if I would risk going out to the tournament? No, if it's a tournament with a big award and I'm in the bubble, I would never risk leaving the tournament without first entering ITM.
 
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I feel the important thing is to raise enough to get the hand down to one opponent . Your odds of winning get majorly reduced the more players that see the flop.
 
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Just finished, final table of a 45 player 0.25$ mtt

PokerStars - 300/600 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


UTG+1: 27.42 BB (VPIP: 40.91, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 45)
MP: 7.18 BB (VPIP: 14.71, PFR: 16.13, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
MP+1: 14.27 BB (VPIP: 21.57, PFR: 14.14, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 103)
MP+2: 7.64 BB (VPIP: 23.94, PFR: 7.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 73)
CO: 10.59 BB (VPIP: 8.89, PFR: 4.65, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 45)
Hero (BTN): 8.66 BB
SB: 11.3 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 8.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 91)
BB: 10.05 BB (VPIP: 15.56, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)
UTG: 15.4 BB (VPIP: 14.55, PFR: 12.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)


9 players post ante of 0 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 2.25 BB) Hero has A A


fold, UTG+1 raises to 4.25 BB, fold, MP+1 raises to 14.19 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero calls 8.57 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls 9.94 BB


Flop: (39.21 BB, 3 players) 9 7 3


Turn: (39.21 BB, 3 players) Q


River: (39.21 BB, 3 players) 8


UTG+1 shows 3 3 (Three of a Kind, Threes)


Main Pot [27.97 BB]: (Pre 19%, Flop 89%, Turn 79%)
Side Pot#1 [11.24 BB]: (Pre 58%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)


MP+1 shows J A (High Card, Ace)


Main Pot [27.97 BB]: (Pre 12%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [11.24 BB]: (Pre 41%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)


Hero shows A A (One Pair, Aces)


Main Pot [27.97 BB]: (Pre 69%, Flop 9%, Turn 21%)


UTG+1 wins 39.21 BB
 
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Just finished, final table of a 45 player 0.25$ mtt

PokerStars - 300/600 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


UTG+1: 27.42 BB (VPIP: 40.91, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 45)
MP: 7.18 BB (VPIP: 14.71, PFR: 16.13, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
MP+1: 14.27 BB (VPIP: 21.57, PFR: 14.14, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 103)
MP+2: 7.64 BB (VPIP: 23.94, PFR: 7.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 73)
CO: 10.59 BB (VPIP: 8.89, PFR: 4.65, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 45)
Hero (BTN): 8.66 BB
SB: 11.3 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 8.05, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 91)
BB: 10.05 BB (VPIP: 15.56, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)
UTG: 15.4 BB (VPIP: 14.55, PFR: 12.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)


9 players post ante of 0 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 2.25 BB) Hero has A A


fold, UTG+1 raises to 4.25 BB, fold, MP+1 raises to 14.19 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero calls 8.57 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls 9.94 BB


Flop: (39.21 BB, 3 players) 9 7 3


Turn: (39.21 BB, 3 players) Q


River: (39.21 BB, 3 players) 8


UTG+1 shows 3 3 (Three of a Kind, Threes)


Main Pot [27.97 BB]: (Pre 19%, Flop 89%, Turn 79%)
Side Pot#1 [11.24 BB]: (Pre 58%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)


MP+1 shows J A (High Card, Ace)


Main Pot [27.97 BB]: (Pre 12%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [11.24 BB]: (Pre 41%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)


Hero shows A A (One Pair, Aces)


Main Pot [27.97 BB]: (Pre 69%, Flop 9%, Turn 21%)


UTG+1 wins 39.21 BB



Chances to meet a schimpanze or even a King Kong are much higher at low limits, so it's not a surprising hand for 0.25
 
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I play AA like this i raise 6-7 BB if someone reraise i go all in. If someone just call i go all in on flop no mateer what are the cards on the flop :D No slow play whit AA whit me :D
 
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Always open raise with AA. If it's mtt you can open with largestack or shove with shortack.
 
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