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When I have AA or KK UTG, i got to slow play or all in preflop? Table 9 players
 
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Depends on table dynamic,but usually you need to raise 3-4 bb maybe more according to villain stacks size.
 
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For me it depends on stack size. If I'm 10bb or smaller I shove. If I'm above average I try to slow play. Be careful about slow playing, it's a hard hand to drop and could cost you a lot of chips if you run into someone who made a set when you didn't
 
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Definitely do NOT slow play. I'd say a standard 2.5-3x bb raise or whatever you've been raising as standard PFR is good. If there's a raise before you act and you're 10BB or less then you shove. This is dependent on stack sizes and current blinds, if you're a deep stack at this point you can 3 and even 4 bet pre flop without getting it all in but consider the other players' stack sizes, if they're small stacks I think decision making is much easier by being the aggressor with AA or KK and getting them all in pre.

Also another issue is anyone who might act after you, so if someone shoves or raises before you , you want to isolate as much as possible so a re-shove will get some limpers out of the way.

In no way should you slow play these unless you everyone folds to you and the only player left is known to shove on you first :)
 
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This definitely depends on your Table. You can decide to slow play and try to trap an opponent into raising you but mostly you wanna raise and hope that somone follows, the best scenario would be that person hitting a good pair on the table below yours thinking they have a good hand, then you just go with the flow and raise them.
 
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It depends how many bb you have and also depends on other things
 
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When I have AA or KK UTG, i got to slow play or all in preflop? Table 9 players

Depends on the players at your table sometimes I limp or raise.. If you have maniac always raising I suggest limping and if he gets no callers/1 caller I usually just slowplay.. If you think he is going to call reraise than repop him.. Just want to make sure you get value out of these hands and don't scare everybody off.. If you get 1 caller and get busted just isn't your day..
 
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Depends on table dynamic,but usually you need to raise 3-4 bb maybe more according to villain stacks size.

Very bad thinking.

First he shoud make his standard open bet and than if another player reraise him he should 4-bet him or just call. It depends what kind of player reraise his bet. If someone reraise and another call than he should play 4-bet all-in
 
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In fact, I have raised around 2.5-3.5 BB it would not have to run to the Bank too many weak hands, but at the same time came to the hands of the average power of which we can extract the maximum profit
 
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I have those cards I will try to isolate their opponents, so I did not call with garbage
 
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When the UTG raises everybody knows you are bluffing or have a monster. But you have to raise to get out the limpers. If you go all in, there is a big change you only pick up the blinds. But you want to make more money out of this hand so make a solid raise.
 
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Slow play will work here against loose aggressive players - they will either call or raise you. You then have two options, go over the top or call and trap. Should be checking relative stack sizes to decide. Ideally they raise because this has the added benefit of pushing others out of the hand.
 
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With those two hands you should want to get a call or two, so you can get all you can out of the hand, but you also want to run out those "any two cards players." Sometimes an all in is needed, but for me, after the flop is the best time to use all ins. I've been using 4 bets or more in those early positions before the flop And I've noticed that those bets are as good as all ins, because you do have some control over the out come of the hand, but going all in turns it into a coin flip.But sometimes it don't matter how much you bet. Some players are going to call you all the way to the river.So those hands takes some thinking even though most players are going to call/raise/all in. but never fold. GL to you
 
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my option would increase 3-4 to take some chips but if they send all rowed in mine
 
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When I have AA or KK UTG, i got to slow play or all in preflop? Table 9 players

I kid very aggressive monsters. I bet more than 3 BB because sometimes moving monster every little thing
 
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When I have AA or KK UTG, i got to slow play or all in preflop? Table 9 players

It isn't just a "slow play or allin pre" situation. You have more than two options.

Honestly, at micro/low MTT's and SNG's, I very rarely advocate slow-playing anything... Especially since an UTG limp is such a weak and weird play, you're starting off by alerting players that something may be amiss with you.

I generally make my standard open raise, which depends on what I've been doing all tournament (2.5, 3 or 4 times the BB.) If you are altering how much you open-raise with depending on the strength of your hand, alert players WILL pick up on that. Don't let them pigeonhole you by doing that. My general rule of thumb is raising 3x the BB, and adding an extra BB for any one who limps in front of me.

Obviously, if your M-ratio is fitting, then shoving KK or AA is the easiest of shoves. Hell, there will be times I'll open-shove AA UTG just to look fishy, no matter what my M-ratio is.

I pretty much never advocate the "limp and hope for a raiser to reraise." In a lot of cases, people will just limp behind you and then you wind up with 4 other players getting shocks to crack your premium KK or AA.

In essence, I don't get cute with KK or AA. Play them strongly and punish draws if you are overpair to the flop. (EDIT: BEWARE paired boards, as always.)
 
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Everything depends on that as igrayu your opponents, your game also will depend on it with KK or AA. If you play with KK or AA only slow play or pre flop all in, then you will lose very often. It is necessary to choose different strategy of game against various opponents.
 
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Slowplaying and all-In are not youre only options. If you have more than 20bb then just play it like any other strong hand. Raise preflop, bet the flop... but make sure you know how to read the board and your opponent's range so that if the other player makes a stronger hand you can slow down and you don't get stacked against his flush or his straight. If you have less than 20bb effective stack you should try to get it all in as soon as possible, but that doesn't always mean open shoving.

The shorter your chipstack, the faster you should play your hand.
 
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Slow playing it is a
Mistake from my point of view.It s the only hand combination u should be raising UTG so why slow play it dont understand.Why risk trapping someone and miss ?
 
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hello

When I have AA or KK UTG, i got to slow play or all in preflop? Table 9 players


Hello..

certainly increase 3xbb, the rest will depend on the flop, most certainly find yourself to be in front continuation 3b is acceptable
 
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Raise a bit extra than normal, say 3.5bb and go from there.
 
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It's completely situational but i wouldn't recommend slow playing ever, even on a tight table.
 
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Raise a bit extra than normal, say 3.5bb and go from there.

And anyone that is paying attention is going to realize you've raised more than normal and wonder "Why?"

Preflop raising different amounts allows attentive players to pigeonhole you, this isn't something I would ever advocate.
 
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I typically put in a raise unless I am the short stack. Then I will shove.
 
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