A simple question

I hope someone answers. say you have an ace and an 8 off suit. someone goes all in with 1100 chips. you have over 3000 do you call or fold?
This is in a MTT

More info is needed, but I would generally say you're going to fold in that situation.

What more do you need

Are you in a sng, cash game, or mtt? Is this a hyper/super/turbo? Position of hero and villan. Number of players left. Have you noticed this guy on tilt or is he a nit? Is he above or under 10BB?

Those are just a few things that provides us with a better assessment of what to do. Although, I still believe my general advice stands and you should probably fold.

I will post the hand in a minute

I am catt.thre
here is the part I was wondering about. BB 100. I lost because I folded and this is not real money. I just wanted an opinion on what I should have done. this is a MTT.
Dealt to catt.thre [7d Ac]
catt.thre: calls 100
babai232: raises 1000 to 1100 and is all-in
ossie2good: calls 1100
josetxux: calls 1000
catt.thre: folds
*** FLOP *** [9s Jd As]
josetxux: checks
ossie2good: bets 700
josetxux: calls 700
*** TURN *** [9s Jd As] [Ad]
josetxux: checks
ossie2good: checks
*** RIVER *** [9s Jd As Ad] [Kd]

I would say to fold unless its late in tourny where the vilain would be shoving lightely.
but i see people going all in at begining of freerolls with ace rag so maybe my advice isnt good lol

One player all in and two other players called. So i think i would fold with A7

INGAJ said:

One player all in and two other players called. So i think i would fold with A7

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^ this.

I would fold A 8os here. Most of the time you'd have to hit the 8 as well as the ace vs two other players. If it were late in the tourney and you were short stacked then you may want to gamble here but you had 30 bb's and there was no need to risk so much of your stack.

Yeap it would be an instant fold for me. With that said, I don't play a lot of rags. And play it even more rarely, if it is not suited. A 5 IMO is better than A 7 8 or 9 because at least you have connector value. At best you hit A 8 other than that you have nothing to shoot for.

tca3rd said:

I am catt.thre
here is the part I was wondering about. BB 100. I lost because I folded and this is not real money. I just wanted an opinion on what I should have done. this is a MTT.
Dealt to catt.thre [7d Ac]
catt.thre: calls 100
babai232: raises 1000 to 1100 and is all-in
ossie2good: calls 1100
josetxux: calls 1000
catt.thre: folds
*** FLOP *** [9s Jd As]
josetxux: checks
ossie2good: bets 700
josetxux: calls 700
*** TURN *** [9s Jd As] A♦
josetxux: checks
ossie2good: checks
*** RIVER *** [9s Jd As Ad] K♦

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MTT...
if 10bb he pushed from Co position or later
that caller just call not squeeze push I would not think he has very good holdings.
I would never fold my A7o here with my 3K stack ....with 1K to burn.


unless I mean unless, how much is the buyin of the tournament, if buyin level is .....30bux or more....I would consider fold here!

but if he pushes from EP that is totally different story.

this is my default reads but if you have Meta game information, you may make decision based on that!

Don't limp A7 from UTG. Fold.

tca3rd said:

I hope someone answers. say you have an ace and an 8 off suit. someone goes all in with 1100 chips. you have over 3000 do you call or fold?
This is in a MTT

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If your strong enough to cash with the chip advantage no, its not a neccessary play, it's not wreckless in any one given tournament. probable range is ace rag/pair
A9+ has you dominated and your tossing against a pair

Are you only playing four-handed? If so, then A7 isn't a horrible hand but you never want to limp into the pot with it from early position.

When the player that shoves gets two callers ahead of you, it's a pretty easy fold because your hand is likely dominated. You really don't want to be calling off over a third of your stack in this situation.

Good decision to fold to many players go to call and A7o it's bad card from utg. Learn more about the starting hands and position

Easy fold in most situations like this.Maybe if your short stacked and late in tour you call.

I would fold such a hand. If I have a AQ I would call him, because I know he was waiting for a good all in hand, and that's often A...

Would normally fold. Unless, as trekmaster puts it, I'm short-stacked. Save your chips when you have better cards and perhaps in a better position.

Thanks to all of you for your responses. it does help to read here to help me make good decisions in the future.

FOLD ... and you did not lose anything but 100. You simply folded before flop which was likely the best action. Did he have KK or 2 diamonds? Your kicker, unsuited, was way too small to have called all-in before flop here.

Lot of good advice in this thread; the fold was probably the best call.

Also, slightly different from the direct answer of your question, but another idea to consider:

Any time I lay down rags that turn into a monster (at least twice I've seen my 47o turn into a straight, or 27o turn into a full house) I try my best to let it go...

... when I can't, I tell myself: Chances are that someone in the circle, on the pot I won with everyone folding out to my AKs draw, laid down their 45o pre-flop with 2-3-6 rainbow...

... so, when I miss what would've been a sweet set, such as the trip A's mentioned above, I coax myself out with that reminder, and knowing there is a more premium hand around the corner.

Considering its not a final table or bubble, its a blind fold ofcourse...

This thread ended up being very helpful to me in my MTT yesterday -- as I laid down a few low/mid PP's early in the game; and saw the decision pay off as high card draws took down the pot.

Easy fold.