Is this a good line? 30K GTD donkfest

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I think I played this well, I made (What I thought was a Great Read)...

About this Player, I've only been at the table for about 20 odd hands, but in that time, he's been opening Alot in later positions...And C-Betting Most flops...So I myself thought this Flop can't help his hand....

So what do you all think? What types of hands could he have? What type of hand does he call us with? Was my play good/Bad


If your all wondering why I didn't shove the Flop, I thought it would be to obvious what I held on that type of a board and that Shoving would make it more Less Likely that I hit and that I would get called, So I figured the turn is the Right Spot to make that move on....Thoughts on this also Needed





poker stars $3.00+$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 9 players - View hand 1372835
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Hero (BB): t8900 44.50 BBs
UTG: t5495 27.48 BBs
UTG+1: t7290 36.45 BBs
UTG+2: t13497 67.48 BBs
MP1: t7512 37.56 BBs
MP2: t5130 25.65 BBs
CO: t10355 51.77 BBs
BTN: t9634 48.17 BBs
SB: t12575 62.88 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BB with 7 :heart: 6 :heart:
4 folds, MP2 raises to t600, 3 folds, Hero calls t400

Flop: (t1300) 4 :diamond: 8 :heart: 3 :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t600, Hero calls t600

Turn: (t2500) 8 :spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t1400, Hero raises to t7700 all in, MP2 calls t2530 all in
 
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I think you should had just call on the turn. Shoving on the flop was an ideea but i do not think flipping is a good ideea when you have almost 30BBs. If he has something and probabely has at least an overcard and maybe a pair because he shot the seccond barrel, he is far ahead of you here. And after his raise on the turn he is pott comitted and probabely call. Here is even call or fold.

I hope my judgement was good :)
 
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I think you should had just call on the turn. Shoving on the flop was an ideea but i do not think flipping is a good ideea when you have almost 30BBs. If he has something and probabely has at least an overcard and maybe a pair because he shot the seccond barrel, he is far ahead of you here. And after his raise on the turn he is pott comitted and probabely call. Here is even call or fold.

I hope my judgement was good :)


Nah your right my only Regret/Donk play was Letting him Commit himself and then making that move...I mean I could have shoved the Flop but then I really had no clue where in the Hand I stood Exactly...I also knew that this Player was capable of just firing with air, and making the same play with the nuts...

Yes your Judgement is correct also:)
 
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If a heart or a 5 falls on the river, your a hero, if not, your a fool. ;)

Not a situation I like much..... at all really. Your only justification here is that you have your villain covered, and will be able to recover when his KJo wins via high card. Or to even rub it in a little more, his T9h wins via high card.

Even knowing you are fairly agro I don't like this, yet I also know you do like this situation. Unfortunately, you met your match, villain in a lot (what is 'a lot'?) could mean so many things, including he is as agro as you. IMHO, you should have folded PF. Its a tourney, and stack preservation is the number 1 method of stack increasing.

Why did you give him a chance on the flop...??? Where is your bet? Obviously his range is large, according to your "a lot" description, followed by your c-bet description. You are OOP, against a (semi) maniac. Why?
 
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If a heart or a 5 falls on the river, your a hero, if not, your a fool. ;)

Not a situation I like much..... at all really. Your only justification here is that you have your villain covered, and will be able to recover when his KJo wins via high card. Or to even rub it in a little more, his T9h wins via high card.

Even knowing you are fairly agro I don't like this, yet I also know you do like this situation. Unfortunately, you met your match, villain in a lot (what is 'a lot'?) could mean so many things, including he is as agro as you. IMHO, you should have folded PF. Its a tourney, and stack preservation is the number 1 method of stack increasing.

Why did you give him a chance on the flop...??? Where is your bet? Obviously his range is large, according to your "a lot" description, followed by your c-bet description. You are OOP, against a (semi) maniac. Why?

Are you sure a Heart and a 5 are the only outs we have to win this hand???

To answer you next question about the Reason I played the Flop the way I had chosen to play it, I really thought by RR shoving on that flop that it was a dead Give away as to what my hand range really consisted of and So there-fore I thought it was better to proceed in this manner...Looking back at the hand, the only real issue I would say I have is that I let him pot commit himself rather then put him to the Decision...

I could be mistaken though also on it, but I think that's one of the Factors that helped make this an Easier call for him...Yet again I don't know that's why I'm asking the questions:)
 
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I would have just called the turn. He was giving you the correct pot odds to call. I might have bet the turn instead of checking becuase he might have give you credit for having tripps with 2 hearts on the board. Not alot of people would check tripps with a flush draw on the board.
 
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Are you sure a Heart and a 5 are the only outs we have to win this hand??? Of course not. But are you taking a possible 7 or 6 to the bank? The notion of outs has to include those outs will produce a winning hand, not just an improved hand. So even the heart on the river would be only 1/2 out maybe.

To answer you next question about the Reason I played the Flop the way I had chosen to play it, I really thought by RR shoving on that flop that it was a dead Give away as to what my hand range really consisted of and So there-fore I thought it was better to proceed in this manner...Looking back at the hand, the only real issue I would say I have is that I let him pot commit himself rather then put him to the Decision...You (probably correctly) thought his range included all Ax's and all pairs, and (according to the 'a lot' description), probably most connectors. You didn't tell us how many of those first 20 hands you got involved in, so we don't really have much of an idea about what your villain might have thought about you and your play.

From the HH it looks like villain was willing to commit here from the git go. Overcards, overpair, or suited in hearts. From what you tell us, you can not stand on the 'flop probably didn't help villain'. According to that 'a lot' description, you can't know. You are running a semi bluff, to a low flush and a gutshot. When doing so, you need to be convincing. You are not here. The only decent story you are suggesting is that you are trapping, and it is only a suggestion, not convincing. Had you check raised the flop, the story would work better, CR the turn, much better than the CC, but by this time, villain may have hit something you let him hit.

I could be mistaken though also on it, but I think that's one of the Factors that helped make this an Easier call for him...Yet again I don't know that's why I'm asking the questions:)

20 hands is not a lot to make these sorts of move on. Save yourself some grief in the future, and drop these situations until you are more sure of an outcome. If you fold pf here you get on to the next hand all the faster......

I do think you will win this hand by fluke..
....:(
 
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