Was this a good or bad call by "villian"

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Was just knocked out pokerstars chromstar freeroll. gonna try my best to explaing the scenario.

it was 9 handed and most of the players at the table were playing tight. Villian was utg and was in mp. Villian min raise big blind, the action was folded to me and i called the min raise. At this point the rest of the table folded and the flop came. Ok so little back tracking, Villian was apprx on 4k in chips and i was a little over 3k. With this min raise i had place villian round the mid of his range (smll pairs-A8s-A10s/o) he was one of the less tighter players. So based on that info i decided to hop in with my 87s to see the flop hoping he had missed and i had connected. The blinds at this time were 125/250 so his min raise was $500.

Right so after i called it was heads up and the flop came 3 6 7, rainbow. action was on him, so there was pretty much over 2k in the pot including antes,
Action on him now and he min bets the flop, saw it as a c-bet but a very weak one, so i figured he either missed the flop or was trying to bait me, i honestly place him on A8, A9, A10 and even Aj.

Right so with my top pair and gutshot straight i decided to shove on the flop. To my surpise he called and not to my surprise he turned over A10, to call me at this point his odds were about 2-1 with about 24% equity. So i was confused at the call not only were their bad odds, but at the start of the hand he only had about 500 more chips than me.

Anyhow the turn came an 8 and on the river came his beloved 10. I mean i know these things happen in poker but im just curious as to whether or not his decision based on all the info i provided, was it the right decision?
 
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Was just knocked out pokerstars chromstar freeroll. gonna try my best to explaing the scenario.

it was 9 handed and most of the players at the table were playing tight. Villian was utg and was in mp. Villian min raise big blind, the action was folded to me and i called the min raise. At this point the rest of the table folded and the flop came. Ok so little back tracking, Villian was apprx on 4k in chips and i was a little over 3k. With this min raise i had place villian round the mid of his range (smll pairs-A8s-A10s/o) he was one of the less tighter players. So based on that info i decided to hop in with my 87s to see the flop hoping he had missed and i had connected. The blinds at this time were 125/250 so his min raise was $500.

Right so after i called it was heads up and the flop came 3 6 7, rainbow. action was on him, so there was pretty much over 2k in the pot including antes,
Action on him now and he min bets the flop, saw it as a c-bet but a very weak one, so i figured he either missed the flop or was trying to bait me, i honestly place him on A8, A9, A10 and even Aj.

Right so with my top pair and gutshot straight i decided to shove on the flop. To my surpise he called and not to my surprise he turned over A10, to call me at this point his odds were about 2-1 with about 24% equity. So i was confused at the call not only were their bad odds, but at the start of the hand he only had about 500 more chips than me.

Anyhow the turn came an 8 and on the river came his beloved 10. I mean i know these things happen in poker but im just curious as to whether or not his decision based on all the info i provided, was it the right decision?

Your call preflop is very bad with 12BB left, you didn't have gutshot straight on flop but the way the hand played your shove on flop is fine.
 
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Sorry i meant gutshot straight draw. But thats not the point im getting at or trying for you guys to get at cause you still didnt answered the initial question which is, based on all the info ive presented up until that point was it a good decision to call my all in by Villian.
 
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Cause from my perspective the only thingi can say in his defence is that he probably place me on a small pair or no pair at all and just read me for KQ or summting similar and figure we both missed and base on the flop thought his A high was good. So for him afterwards when he saw my all-in probably thought hes ok with a coinflip
 
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Was just knocked out pokerstars chromstar freeroll. gonna try my best to explaing the scenario.

it was 9 handed and most of the players at the table were playing tight. Villian was utg and was in mp. Villian min raise big blind, the action was folded to me and i called the min raise. At this point the rest of the table folded and the flop came. Ok so little back tracking, Villian was apprx on 4k in chips and i was a little over 3k. With this min raise i had place villian round the mid of his range (smll pairs-A8s-A10s/o) he was one of the less tighter players. So based on that info i decided to hop in with my 87s to see the flop hoping he had missed and i had connected. The blinds at this time were 125/250 so his min raise was $500.

Right so after i called it was heads up and the flop came 3 6 7, rainbow. action was on him, so there was pretty much over 2k in the pot including antes,
Action on him now and he min bets the flop, saw it as a c-bet but a very weak one, so i figured he either missed the flop or was trying to bait me, i honestly place him on A8, A9, A10 and even Aj.

Right so with my top pair and gutshot straight i decided to shove on the flop. To my surpise he called and not to my surprise he turned over A10, to call me at this point his odds were about 2-1 with about 24% equity. So i was confused at the call not only were their bad odds, but at the start of the hand he only had about 500 more chips than me.

Anyhow the turn came an 8 and on the river came his beloved 10. I mean i know these things happen in poker but im just curious as to whether or not his decision based on all the info i provided, was it the right decision?

You both played worth crap, someone has to win though...Where are these games?
 
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to understand their actions, you need a mathematical justification of their actions learn all about EV
 
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to understand their actions, you need a mathematical justification of their actions learn all about EV


Well if trying to justifiy his reasoning based on working out his EV, it was a very poor call. His ev was a whooping -$1192.
 
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Was just knocked out pokerstars chromstar freeroll. gonna try my best to explaing the scenario.

it was 9 handed and most of the players at the table were playing tight. Villian was utg and was in mp. Villian min raise big blind, the action was folded to me and i called the min raise. At this point the rest of the table folded and the flop came. Ok so little back tracking, Villian was apprx on 4k in chips and i was a little over 3k. With this min raise i had place villian round the mid of his range (smll pairs-A8s-A10s/o) he was one of the less tighter players. So based on that info i decided to hop in with my 87s to see the flop hoping he had missed and i had connected. The blinds at this time were 125/250 so his min raise was $500.

Right so after i called it was heads up and the flop came 3 6 7, rainbow. action was on him, so there was pretty much over 2k in the pot including antes,
Action on him now and he min bets the flop, saw it as a c-bet but a very weak one, so i figured he either missed the flop or was trying to bait me, i honestly place him on A8, A9, A10 and even Aj.

Right so with my top pair and gutshot straight i decided to shove on the flop. To my surpise he called and not to my surprise he turned over A10, to call me at this point his odds were about 2-1 with about 24% equity. So i was confused at the call not only were their bad odds, but at the start of the hand he only had about 500 more chips than me.

Anyhow the turn came an 8 and on the river came his beloved 10. I mean i know these things happen in poker but im just curious as to whether or not his decision based on all the info i provided, was it the right decision?
You're playing a freeroll, His choices were wrong 100%.
His thought process had nothing to do with math and all to do with how pretty his cards looked to him, the way he saw it was, he had 2 overcards and that is more than enough for an idiot to make that type of move.

Just tonight, I had seen a player call 3 all-ins(I was knocked out in this hand holding KK) in a 1.10 MTT, cards all up AA, KK 910s and idiot called with 68s, he flopped 2 pair, and no improvement for anyone else by the river.

My point is don't try to understand why your opponent played the way he did, because all poker players do not play YOUR game, and most freerollers play bingo.

Those types of hands are going to happen alot and it's something you're going to have to get use to.
 
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You're playing a freeroll, His choices were wrong 100%.
His thought process had nothing to do with math and all to do with how pretty his cards looked to him, the way he saw it was, he had 2 overcards and that is more than enough for an idiot to make that type of move.

Just tonight, I had seen a player call 3 all-ins(I was knocked out in this hand holding KK) in a 1.10 MTT, cards all up AA, KK 910s and idiot called with 68s, he flopped 2 pair, and no improvement for anyone else by the river.

My point is don't try to understand why your opponent played the way he did, because all poker players do not play YOUR game, and most freerollers play bingo.

Those types of hands are going to happen alot and it's something you're going to have to get use to.




Yh i guess with free rolls and micro mtts and other small stakes games i guess i will see a lot of this.
 
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