Is this a bad play?

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Live game - $50 buy in....157 runners
The guy called me 'banana' after I took this hand down.
He's in the cut off with 5000, blinds 100/50.
Aggressive player, everyone folds to him he raises to 350. Everyone folds, I'm in BB with A 10 suited, 7000chips - Reraise to1400. Test him out. He calls
Pot 1900
Flop 9, 6, 4 rainbow.
I lead out with 1200 hoping to take it down then and there......he calls.
Pot 4300
Turn King I shoot my second barrel 2000...he fold and turns over A, 10 and starts the abuse??? I show becuase I know he is a d*ck.
I would love to hear peoples opinions about the way I played this hand. I truly believe that when it heads up he is going to miss the flop 60% of the time, so take it down.
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I have no problems with the way you played this. In some ways it's a risky strategy as you've committed half your stack on a bluff but if you believe he has air then ok. If he had called the turn (and the King is a danger card for you) then you're probably in big trouble.
As for the abuse then that is ridiculous - bluffing is part of the game. After all he put in half his stack with only Ace high against an opponent who has raised and led out on the flop, so who's the donk?
 
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I truly believe that when it heads up he is going to miss the flop 60% of the time, so take it down.
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I don't know the correct % i belive it is more than 60% though.To start with you prob should not be 3betting a hand like A10 OOP most of the time he folds his air and calls you with a better ace and\or big pair.This was a live game you said and most of the players are bad but playing A 10 in a 3bet pot OOP vs any player is not +EV.
Your lead out of less than your 3 bet is terri bad he called over 20% of his stack pre,then you bet less on the flop.I just don't understand the play with the amount of chips.
 
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I think its terrible play
  1. you raise from the blinds with a marginal hand...? you are now in a pot which represents a 3rd of your stack OOP
  2. you donk bet the pot OOP .. what are you going to do if he shoves? or re raises?
  3. you donk bet the pot again when you've no idea what he has and no plan for the hand
You 'Gamble' half your stack because you think the guys a d ck?
 
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I think its terrible play
  1. you raise from the blinds with a marginal hand...? you are now in a pot which represents a 3rd of your stack OOP
  2. you donk bet the pot OOP .. what are you going to do if he shoves? or re raises?
  3. you donk bet the pot again when you've no idea what he has and no plan for the hand
You 'Gamble' half your stack because you think the guys a d ck?
OP was the 3better fox,still a terrible play though given villain only had 5k to start.Plus why the hell 3 bet A 10.
 
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Wish he played in my local games :)
 
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anyone else confused on why the flop pot is 1900 when hero 3bet to 1400 pre :D?
 
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I don't know the correct % i belive it is more than 60% though.To start with you prob should not be 3betting a hand like A10 OOP most of the time he folds his air and calls you with a better ace and\or big pair.This was a live game you said and most of the players are bad but playing A 10 in a 3bet pot OOP vs any player is not +EV.
Your lead out of less than your 3 bet is terri bad he called over 20% of his stack pre,then you bet less on the flop.I just don't understand the play with the amount of chips.
Seems like a bad play from the responses and I know my numbers are wrong and I admit I don't really undestand +EV but what about fold equity.
If he doesn't hit the flop which is 2/3 of the time how can he call my continuation bet?
He must put me on a stonger hand tham his?
He was first into the pot and I put didn't put him on much condisering his style of play. I honestly thought I was infront pre-flop so I played accordingly, it was about taking the lead in the betting.
Maybe this play is better in postion?
 
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The point is you are def ahead of his range here with A10.You should be calling to let him bluff instead of running him off.He only calls the top of his range to your 3 bet i guess he considers ~A10 at the top.Normaly you would only get called by hands you are behind and you fold out the hands in his range you are crushing.
To answer your question EVERY play works better IP.
 
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If he doesn't hit the flop which is 2/3 of the time how can he call my continuation bet?
He is calling because he knows that you miss the flop the same percentage of time and that you are simply making a continuation bet. The size of your continuation bet is also smallish relative to the pot size.

If you had merely called from the big blind, your continuation bet would have been more convincing. You have defined your hand as big one which is unlikely to have hit a board with such a dry texture.
 
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OP was the 3better fox,still a terrible play though given villain only had 5k to start.Plus why the hell 3 bet A 10.

I'll three bet A 10 in the blinds given the right circumstances. Hell, I'll three bet any 2 cards in the right circumstances.

But I agree, it was a terrible play for the reasons given above
 
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I'm not sure, but I think you might be a little too hard on the OP.

If he's representing AA, KK, or perhaps AK, the bets he made might be perfectly realistic - a decent re-raise preflop that's just small enough to keep a lesser hand interested (probably AA or KK in the villain's hand would be met with a shove at which we fold). Then we bet a little less than half the pot after a harmless flop to let him know we still think we're on top and he's gonna have to pay that and more after the turn. We bet half of what we have left after the K on the turn, which now makes us good with AA, KK, or even the AK we hope our opponent doesn't have. But we've made it appear we're committed to spending all our chips on the hand, even though we're just bluffing at this point.

Frankly if you're trying to convince your opponent that you have a premium hand, it doesn't really matter whether you have A-T or 7-2. You just need to know that your opponent is likely to have played a hand that it makes sense for him to fold and that he doesn't decide he too is committed to the hand with a better kicker or a pocket pair.

Personally I would have folded pre-flop and waited for a better spot and/or better cards. But I can't blame the OP for his play either.
 
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He should have shoved definitely at the turn at least to rep a big hand. That would have been a better bluff. I hate the pre-flop raise with A10, I hate the 2000 bet on turn and the bet on the flop. It happens to me but you won the pot plus you got the dude mad which, probably lead to him losing pots because he was steaming lol.
 
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I think is not a good play, since u are with a marginal hand playing out of position, and u keep bluffing getting more than half of ur stack on it.

Just luck saved u this time :p
 
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I think it is not a bad play..
its depend on us that..
how to we play any game..
bcoz games r help us to entertain..:cool:
 
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I think is not a good play, since u are with a marginal hand playing out of position, and u keep bluffing getting more than half of ur stack on it.

Just luck saved u this time :p

Since when our cards matter if we are representing a strong hand ??

@OP - Well played. This is how you fight fire with fire. Punish those aggro suckerz !
 
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Since when our cards matter if we are representing a strong hand ??

@OP - Well played. This is how you fight fire with fire. Punish those aggro suckerz !
I think it was not the best momento to light some fire, donking with air too :/
 
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