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I just added $50 to my full tilt account
After playing for a bit now have $55
What bankroll strategy should i utalise
And which types of games should i play to reach $1000 BR
And assuming i am consistent and dont tilt how long should this take me? Month? 2? More? Less?

Any tips would be usefull
 
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I just added $50 to my full tilt account
After playing for a bit now have $55
What bankroll strategy should i utalise
And which types of games should i play to reach $1000 BR
And assuming i am consistent and dont tilt how long should this take me? Month? 2? More? Less?

Any tips would be usefull

I would like to look at it in more detail.Could you provide more information on your game?:rolleyes:
 
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I normally play on 4 tables of rush 0.01/0.02 or 0.02/0.05 or mix of the two

And lets say i play an hour or two a day

Any other info i could give that would help u guys give me tips?
 
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I'd have to say more, and that is if you don't bust the br first.

Playing 5nl rush on a 50$ br is going to be a very high ROR (risk of ruin aka going broke).

A standard BRM (Bankroll Management) approach, to help lower ROR if you are a winning player, would be a minimum 20 BI (buy-in) BR (Bankroll) so for 2NL it would be 40$ or for 5NL it would be 100$. Understanding of course even a 20 BI BR is very aggressive and depending on a winrate could still be a high ROR.

These days as well with the games being tougher many people would advocate a 30 BI BR for a safer BRM, so this would mean with 50$ to start or even the current 55$ BR you have that you are only just rolled to play 2NL, and once you hit 100-150$ in your BR then you could take a shot at 5NL and drop back to 2NL if you drop below maybe 100$ in the case of a 30BI BRM or $60 in the case of a 20BI BRM as you will have to build it back up to a full BR for the 5NL games again to minimize going broke.

So now as for the moving up the limits and getting to a 1k bankroll, this is going to depend on the winrate and of course the volume you put in. However lets make some modest assumptions, say you have a 5bb/100hands winrate which can be sustainable at most limits as a minimum but especially at the micros (2nl to 50nl).

Playing 4 tables of rush you are getting maybe 800 or so hands per hour, I know most people indicate zoom on stars is about 1k hands per hour but I find the rush tables to be a little slower so 800/hour 4 tabling should be sustainable.

You indicate you play 1-2 hours each night so lets say you are playing 1400 hands a day as an average.

With a starting br of 50$ and playing 2NL, lets assume you take the more agressive BRM approach and follow a 20BI BRM. Meaning you need to 50$ at 2nl to be able to move to 5NL.

50$ equals 25BI at 2NL or 2500BB, so divide 2500 by 5 and multiply by 100 to get the # of hands you must play at 2NL to be able to move to 5NL. This works out to 50,000 hands at 2NL which based on your average play means it will take you 50,000 / 1,400 = ~36 days to be properly rolled for 5NL.

So now you have about 100$ and are playing 5NL, you will need 200$ to be rolled for 10NL or 20BI of profit at 5NL being 2000bb so similar to the previous 2NL example this means it will take you now ~30 days (2000/5 * 100 / 1400) to reach 10NL.

So work it all out and add it up and basically to have a 1k br means you would need to be rolled to play 50NL at a 20BI BRM, and this of course is if everything goes according to plan and you can maintain the winrate at all levels without any setbacks. You would essentially spend the following days at each limit....

2NL - 35-36 days
5NL - 30 days
10NL - 42-43 days
25NL - 30 days

So at minimum in the perfect scenario with playing 1-2 hours each day its going to take about 140 days or so or 4-5 months to reach a 1k bankroll and be rolled for 50NL with 20BI.

Hope this helps.
 
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0,01-0,02 REGULAR CASH GAMES (table selection) or SNG 45 man 0,50$ ,
regular MTT with low buy ins General play for build bankroll

search freerolls with good prizepool and low field
 
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4x tables nl2/5 zoom - 2,3 hours 10 - 30 $ profit
 
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50$ isn't enough. me i use 100 ABI (average buy in) so if you play for exmple on 4table and you sit with max BI 2$. so 2x4 = 8$ the session (ABI). 50/8 = 6.25 sessions. so your ROR is high.
Just to prcise i use this rule for mtts, but i think it's the same, as variance exist for both cash and tournmaent.
 
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Cash table buyin 5% or less and for tourneys 2%
 
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So work it all out and add it up and basically to have a 1k br means you would need to be rolled to play 50NL at a 20BI BRM, and this of course is if everything goes according to plan and you can maintain the winrate at all levels without any setbacks. You would essentially spend the following days at each limit....

2NL - 35-36 days
5NL - 30 days
10NL - 42-43 days
25NL - 30 days

So at minimum in the perfect scenario with playing 1-2 hours each day its going to take about 140 days or so or 4-5 months to reach a 1k bankroll and be rolled for 50NL with 20BI.

Hope this helps.

I would definitely need some coaching from you bluff :D

the first stage of getting better in anything in this world is accepting, so i accept that i donno s**t about poker, because honestly, getting there always sounds to me lika a fairy tale :p
So there's a lot to learn out there...
Thanks for posting buddy!
 
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it depends if multitable i would recomend starting with sng, but that also depends on wich limits would you play, if you play 3.50$ sng i think 1k is around 4months, if cash games that could probably take a bit long
 
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Dont aim to hit $1000 within a specific timeframe. Aim to play the best poker you possibly can. If you are good enough the money will follow.
 
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I'd have to say more, and that is if you don't bust the br first.

Playing 5nl rush on a 50$ br is going to be a very high ROR (risk of ruin aka going broke).

A standard BRM (Bankroll Management) approach, to help lower ROR if you are a winning player, would be a minimum 20 BI (buy-in) BR (Bankroll) so for 2NL it would be 40$ or for 5NL it would be 100$. Understanding of course even a 20 BI BR is very aggressive and depending on a winrate could still be a high ROR.

These days as well with the games being tougher many people would advocate a 30 BI BR for a safer BRM, so this would mean with 50$ to start or even the current 55$ BR you have that you are only just rolled to play 2NL, and once you hit 100-150$ in your BR then you could take a shot at 5NL and drop back to 2NL if you drop below maybe 100$ in the case of a 30BI BRM or $60 in the case of a 20BI BRM as you will have to build it back up to a full BR for the 5NL games again to minimize going broke.

So now as for the moving up the limits and getting to a 1k bankroll, this is going to depend on the winrate and of course the volume you put in. However lets make some modest assumptions, say you have a 5bb/100hands winrate which can be sustainable at most limits as a minimum but especially at the micros (2nl to 50nl).

Playing 4 tables of rush you are getting maybe 800 or so hands per hour, I know most people indicate zoom on stars is about 1k hands per hour but I find the rush tables to be a little slower so 800/hour 4 tabling should be sustainable.

You indicate you play 1-2 hours each night so lets say you are playing 1400 hands a day as an average.

With a starting br of 50$ and playing 2NL, lets assume you take the more agressive BRM approach and follow a 20BI BRM. Meaning you need to 50$ at 2nl to be able to move to 5NL.

50$ equals 25BI at 2NL or 2500BB, so divide 2500 by 5 and multiply by 100 to get the # of hands you must play at 2NL to be able to move to 5NL. This works out to 50,000 hands at 2NL which based on your average play means it will take you 50,000 / 1,400 = ~36 days to be properly rolled for 5NL.

So now you have about 100$ and are playing 5NL, you will need 200$ to be rolled for 10NL or 20BI of profit at 5NL being 2000bb so similar to the previous 2NL example this means it will take you now ~30 days (2000/5 * 100 / 1400) to reach 10NL.

So work it all out and add it up and basically to have a 1k br means you would need to be rolled to play 50NL at a 20BI BRM, and this of course is if everything goes according to plan and you can maintain the winrate at all levels without any setbacks. You would essentially spend the following days at each limit....

2NL - 35-36 days
5NL - 30 days
10NL - 42-43 days
25NL - 30 days

So at minimum in the perfect scenario with playing 1-2 hours each day its going to take about 140 days or so or 4-5 months to reach a 1k bankroll and be rolled for 50NL with 20BI.

Hope this helps.

I agree with this 100%. I average just under 1000 hands per hour at zoom on pokerstars and have a 5bb/100 win rate over 40k hands at 2NL. I've had swings as large as 10BI, so I also recommend at least a 20BI bankroll. I think that BluffMeAllIn gives very good advice and you should follow it if you are thinking of grinding fast/zoom/rush cash games.
 
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Good luck mate my advice is to be happy,play for fun and for cash at same time.Don`t forget to take a break when you are exhausted to play.
 
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BluffMeAllIn said it all, so there is not much more to be said here!!!
Only thing I want to say is that 25bis is still aggressive and so is 30. I would recommend at least 40 buy ins to start with and feel more comfortable. Good luck!
 
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Has there been any progress?? Busto already?? Gimmie something
 
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You could do 50$ to 1000$ in a few hours at a live 1/2 table, but I wouldn't suggest that. You'd be better off withdrawing the 50, waiting patiently and studying the game and eventually depositing 300-500 when your ready to establish a bankroll for a game like 10NL. Then you should calculate your win rates over an extensive trial of hands and if you see long term profits (ignore short term luckboxing) feel free to move up to 25nl.


Or you could just deposit 50, lose it, deposit another 25, lose it, deposit another 50, lose it, and pay anyyything to roll the dice just oneee moreee time.
 
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You should have 50-100 buy ins for whatever it is that you are playing.

With $50 you are sufficiently rolled for $0.01/$0.02 NL microstakes cash games. Or you could play $2 Sit n Go tournaments if that is more your style.

If you want to play Limit games I think you should probably have 100-200 buy ins for whatever level you want to play.
 
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I prefer playing tournaments because those tend to result in larger payouts and I'm able to be more conservative with my money.
 
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i think playing tournaments is good way to play to reach $1000 BR,

first you play some little heap up, buy in 1 or 2, build to 100$ then just playing 2$ or 3 buy in tounament ,touanment will dont tilt

If you are good enough then one or two months you can to 1000$(This is my suggestion that I hope to be useful to you)
 
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Hes busto already im guessing.. just start with 100 would b safer
 
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I just added $50 to my full tilt account
After playing for a bit now have $55
What bankroll strategy should i utalise
And which types of games should i play to reach $1000 BR
And assuming i am consistent and dont tilt how long should this take me? Month? 2? More? Less?

Any tips would be usefull

Even with 10$ to 1,500$ can be lifted in a few days, in the day to play a few hours. It all depends on you
 
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Bankroll management is kinda secondary to one thing. If you are good player or not. All the bankroll management in the world won't help a bad/ poor/ fun player.
 
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