re: Poker & 3betting for value
Originally Posted by baudib1
If someone raises with 77 and you 3-bet with AK, is that a bluff or a value-raise?
If someones range were 77+ AK (4.8%) you wouldnt 3bet AK because ovet half their range would legitimately continue.
I know what your saying about the power of raising and taking down a hand on a later street, but if you think about it, this is something you rarely do against a range that AK isnt ahead of preflop.
With the case of the hand 77 we dont want 77 to be the bottom of his calling range we want it to be the middle of his calling range in order to take him off hands on later streets. This is basicaly the principle behind flatting polarised ranges and collecting cbets.
Trying to bluff people of weak PP by flatting AK isnt very profitable. Thats simply because the occasionally spike sets and if they raise all PP then some of those PP will be strong. IN order to balance a range, only 1/3 of it needs to be for value. Where pushing people off small PP does become valuable is when they have a ton of other stuff in their range that is weaker than a pair. Because now, instead of pushing them of 5 or 6 hands (30 combos) you can probably push them off 120 combos or more
Also look at what happens postflop if someone cbets into you with a PP (and their range is mostly PPS) you are calling hoping to spike.
Now consider a wider range that includes some non PP hands, you are calling with the best hand more often than you are behind (AK is the nut non paired hand) and have the opportunity to spike if you are behind.
What you have to remember is that at 2NL people arent usually 3betting light and call too wide. Most of the multistreet plays revolve around people raising light and having the ability to fold weak hands.