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hi all
just learning about 3 betting.
i read that 3bets only apply
to limit holdem
but could a reraise in no limit
be considered the same thing ?(or similar)
if not what is the difference (or differences)
thanks
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Where did you read that a 3bet only applies to limit? there is no difference except for the size of the bets. A 3bet preflop would be a raise and then a reraise. post flop there would have to be a bet, a raise then a reraise. No matter what game you are plaing typically it means they have a very strong hand. They are much easier to play against in limit because the the third bet is very small compared to the size of the pot so if you made the reraise then there is no folding for you. in NL it is a much different story because you are usually facing a very large bet. in limit I wouldnt put it past someone to 3bet a strong draw or top pair strong kicker so these dont need to be taken as seriously as in NL
 
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i read it only applies to limit in an online article somwhere.
so for instance if utg raises
and a player raises behind them is this a 3bet ?
or does it have to be re-raised again for it to be a 3bet ?
bit confused about 'third bet' thing
the 3 means 'third bet' or 'third raise' is this correct
what about 3 players left
button raises
sb folds
bb 3bets button
'2nd raise'
bit confused
 
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nonono... right let me start from the begenning the 1 bet is the big blind because its raising the small blind, the 2 bet is the initial opening raise because they are raising the big blind, and the 3 bet is someone who re raises the initial raise (the 2 better)

also 3 betting is re raising the first bet on the turn flop or river.

you can also 4 bet and so on and on but the 5 bet in no limit is usually all in. Hope this all helped.
 
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ah, so bb is first bet
getting clearer now
i read somewhere that third raise
usually means AA
was getting confused between
3rd raise and 3bet
thanks m8
 
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Doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s AA.
 
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ah, so bb is first bet
getting clearer now
i read somewhere that third raise
usually means AA
was getting confused between
3rd raise and 3bet
thanks m8

A 3-bet usually means AA or KK, but depends on the type of player.
An aggressive player might 3-bet with smaller pairs, or even suited connectors.
 
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Ahhh 3-bet it's all clear. I didnt even know that was term in Poker lol sooo complicated lol good thread.
 
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i do this often when i am big stack
re-raise the raiser
just didn't know it was called a 3bet
now i have learned something
but i still have LOADS to learn
thanks for all reply's
 
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isnt 3bet meaning betting 3 times at more than the original raiser? i dunno im not entirely sure myself
 
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isnt 3bet meaning betting 3 times at more than the original raiser? i dunno im not entirely sure myself

no 3 bet is re raising the raiser. it is commen to triple their raise though.
 
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Ahhh 3-bet it's all clear. I didnt even know that was term in Poker lol sooo complicated lol good thread.

Ok, here goes with another off topic post tonight (if I'm getting outta hand, someone please stop me..):

Are you not the player who is, and I quote, "For those that don't know, Kountess is a well-known poker professional here in Las Vegas, has made a fortune both online and at the live tables, both in cash games and tournaments. She has made her fortune from her ability to read other players' hands." ??

Because if you are this same person, then I am astounded and amazed that you didn't know that 3-bet was (is) a poker term. Or was zingbust just full of shite?

And now we return to your regularly scheduled thread...
 
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no 3 bet is re raising the raiser. it is commen to triple their raise though.

Tripling the raise for a 3-bet is common (in tournaments) because:

1) The stacks between the 2-bettor and 3-bettor are deep enough to warrant a triple

2) the 3-bettor is not paying attention to stack sizes and is leaving no fold equity behind, or,

3) It is a tottaly cards based play (KK, AA) and they are doing it wrong.

IMHO, if you are going to 3-bet in a shallow stack game, or against more than just the initial raiser and re-raiser (early limpers bloating the pot), you should make your 3-bet an all in. Otherwise you are just asking for a headache on the flop when you only have 500 left to bet into a 3500 pot.
 
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