22 in the SB What do you do?

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Question 1... Your at a table on the SB with 5 opponents,and the table folds to you holding 22 knowing the BB has AKs, do you fold, raise or limp in?

Question 2... Your at a table on the SB with 8 opponents,and the table folds to you holding 22 knowing the BB has AKs, do you fold, raise or limp in?

Question 3... Your at a table on the SB with 5 opponents,and the table folds to you holding 22 , do you fold, raise or limp in?

Question 4... Your at a table on the SB with 8 opponents,and the table folds to you holding 22 , do you fold, raise or limp in?

I was in this situation with 22 on the SB with 5 opponents and it folded to me so i raised 3x the BB and BB re raised i had almost half my stack in, so i called he turned up AKs and the flop pared his A, knocking me out of a tourny.

I feel like i made the right call here, Would love some input on this situation from some good poker players.

Thanks for any advice here!
 
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You have to include more info. here before a decent answer can be given (ie. stack sizes, blinds, history (BvB history with villain)/player reads).

if we 'know' BB has AK (what? he told us? we saw his cards?)...

If we have <15bb's, open -shove.
If we have 20-25bb's, maybe LRRAI (villain dependent).
& the list goes on...
 
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To many answers to this question. But im only looking to play small pocket pairs if its cheap enough. If a 3x raise is half your stack then it should be an allin shove or fold.
 
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Early in the tourny? Question 1 I fold Question 2 I fold Question 3 I limp Question 4 I limp.late in the tour or final table? Question 1 I shove Question 2 I shove Question 3 I shove Question 4 I shove
 
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3x open and c-bet if the flop is dry. Btw... how can you know what BB has?
 
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I try not to limp an unopened pot. And since I know (with the fold to me) that I'm gonna get in this hand... I'm raising in all those spots.

Even if I did know BB has AK. In fact, if I really did know he had AK, I'll prolly raise the pot. Of course, I now have AA. ;)

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Question 1... Your at a table on the SB with 5 opponents,and the table folds to you holding 22 knowing the BB has AKs, do you fold, raise or limp in?

if only u against BB, there is no different you hold 22 or QQ, your 22 here is equal to QQ.

if BB does not hit....A or K, you take down the pot.

so I would raise bigger, here I have 22 = I have QQ, if BB wants to all in preflop,I call all in.

if flop A or K, no 2 I fold.

if flop no A no, K , I shove, what ever bb wants to call, he wants to call.
 
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i even have folded AA,KK and other similar cards or pairs.Everything depence what you get in the tabel.Few times when i have folded 22-s in the tabel gets one 2 or even 22(no A or K).Soo in this case i was giving away winning hand.You never can be sure whit 22-s.I mostly fold them (smallest-weakest pair)
 
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3x open and c-bet if the flop is dry. Btw... how can you know what BB has?

Well you cant unless he told you, but I'm asking just hypothetically, say you just had this uncanny read on your opponent.
 
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your 22 here is equal to QQ.

Not that I disagree with the jist of your comment but I would point out that 22 is not = to QQ. When you play 22 you run a much greater risk of having a counterfeit board than you do with QQ. Something to consider when playing small PP's really hard.
(Plus there's that whole over pair thingy we'd have to worry about if we weren't playing in God-mode the OP has us in)
 
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Is it cash or sng or tournament? And what are the stack sizes?
 
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Not that I disagree with the jist of your comment but I would point out that 22 is not = to QQ. When you play 22 you run a much greater risk of having a counterfeit board than you do with QQ. Something to consider when playing small PP's really hard.
(Plus there's that whole over pair thingy we'd have to worry about if we weren't playing in God-mode the OP has us in)

because in question 1
he knows 22 is against with AK.....

so 22 , 33, to QQ there is no difference....
but most of case, you don't know your 22 is against AK, so 22 is not equal to QQ...:p:p:p:p
 
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Weird questions here, but if I must decide, it would be:
1.Raise
2.Raise
3.Raise
4.Raise

If your raise is going to commit you to the pot and the blinds and antes are worth stealing and fighting for, then shove all in. This way you put additional pressure on your opponents, especially if you have enough fold equity.
 
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Think about ranges, as you never know exactly what your opponent holds
 
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