WTF

Days like these I rethink if human stupidity really has no limits. What is the reasoning process behind doing this in a $ 5.50 tournament where you are a healthy stack?
I do not think this is rigged honestly, but either this guy is too stupid or I do not know...


888 Poker - 125/250 Ante 30 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


StonerEric (BTN): 9,897 (VPIP: 16.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 25)
MrHachiman (SB): 17,515
MunzeKonzaA1 (BB): 31,320 (VPIP: 39.13, PFR: 23.19, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 69)
bull666666 (UTG): 5,215 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 20.90, 3Bet Preflop: 3.03, Hands: 69)
nagry (UTG+1): 16,645 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
darrren201 (MP): 11,665 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
sMalganuSs (MP+1): 7,423 (VPIP: 24.24, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 67)
ringhals (MP+2): 22,627
Toritz (CO): 17,724 (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 18)


9 players post ante of 0, MrHachiman posts SB 125, MunzeKonzaA1 posts BB 250


Pre Flop: (pot: 645) MrHachiman has A♥ A♠


fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Toritz raises to 560, StonerEric calls 560, MrHachiman raises to 1,680, fold, Toritz raises to 4,100, fold, MrHachiman raises to 7,520, Toritz calls 3,420


Flop: (16,120, 2 players) 4♣ 8♠ 2♦
MrHachiman bets 9,965 and is all-in, Toritz calls 9,965


Turn: (36,050, 2 players) A♣


River: (36,050, 2 players) 3♣


MrHachiman shows A♥ A♠ (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 78%, Flop 64%, Turn 82%)
Toritz shows 5♠ 6♠ (Straight, Six High)
(Pre 22%, Flop 36%, Turn 18%)
Toritz wins 36,050

He had in his head only "I feel lucky", nothing else. Don't try to explain the donkey's logic. There are none. It happens. Pretty unlucky sir.

Yeah, very strange If you want to know the bad news, it doesn't matter which game or level you play.

I was playing in the $109.00 (low) ME for scoop last Sunday. I was in BB with Ah 5d, there was a 3X bet from the UTG+2 player, so I called from the BB. The flop landed and it was Ad, 5h, 6h, so I am sat with two pair. Thinking to myself, well a good buy-in, and surely he must have something worth playing. I bet about 37% of the post, he raised me, so I re-raised again, he shoved all in. Bearing in mind this was only the 2nd blind level, and we started with 50K chips, I called, and we were both all-in, he flipped his cards and he had 7h, 9h
I mean would you have played like that, cos I could not believe it, and yes he hit his flush on the river?

Just didn't make any sense to me at all? Oh well, my point is that sometimes you will never understand why would they play like they do? The only answer is that they have no common-sense and if they continue to play like that, they won't win a thing.

Sucks but I have seen these players lose 20 freerolls in a row only to get traction in one tournament. If you play higher stakes onlines tournaments these players at almost all filtered out by skill/stake level. MTT have a lot of variances.

You have to consider the price you are giving him with that min raise.He has to only call 3.4k to a total pot of 16.8k
That's around 20%. And one of the best hands vs overpairs to have.
On the flop he has two gutshots+BDFD & I don't mind him calling the cause he's insanely priced in.
He needs 27% while he has over 40% vs the very top of the range


http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: 2d8s4c
equity Win Tie
CO 58.27% 58.27% 0.00% { TT+, AKs, AKo }
BU 41.73% 41.73% 0.00% { 6s5s }

This is all from a mathematical POV while the player might be a punter. But every decision could be reasoned to be right to begin with

Marcwantstowin said:

Yeah, very strange If you want to know the bad news, it doesn't matter which game or level you play.

I was playing in the $109.00 (low) ME for scoop last Sunday. I was in BB with Ah 5d, there was a 3X bet from the UTG+2 player, so I called from the BB. The flop landed and it was Ad, 5h, 6h, so I am sat with two pair. Thinking to myself, well a good buy-in, and surely he must have something worth playing. I bet about 37% of the post, he raised me, so I re-raised again, he shoved all in. Bearing in mind this was only the 2nd blind level, and we started with 50K chips, I called, and we were both all-in, he flipped his cards and he had 7h, 9h
I mean would you have played like that, cos I could not believe it, and yes he hit his flush on the river?

Just didn't make any sense to me at all? Oh well, my point is that sometimes you will never understand why would they play like they do? The only answer is that they have not common-sense and if they continue to play like that, they won't win a thing.

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This again he has a ton of equity.
Gutshot+FD


http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: Ad6h5h
Equity Win Tie
MP2 38.79% 38.79% 0.00% { 9h7h }
BB 61.21% 61.21% 0.00% { Ah5d }


Some of my own opinions,
Why are you donking here? Doesn't make sense cause you are folding all of his bluffs. I'm check raising very likely. Probably folding pre as well vs early opener but it has merit to flat with the wheel draw.
I'm not playing a Flush draw like this if I was the V, but people want to chip up asap and get a hold of the tourney. So regs would probably punt at the beginning with decent equity. We are talking about regs would would fire second or third bullets to win a ton of money.

I feel like this post belongs here:

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/bad-beats-vents-71/rigged-megathread-all-rigged-roads-lead-297777/

Nothing to comment here because we know the result ,
Better luck next time MrHachiman , that was brutal!!!

Alucard said:

This is all from a mathematical POV while the player might be a punter. But every decision could be reasoned to be right to begin with

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Btw your 3 bet size is too small vs 2 players. Also I'm probably jamming vs 4 bet & even if I'm 5betting I'm betting bigger - around 2.1x+


Not sure about his 5bet flat. Price is insanely good while he has put almost half his stack

Your pre flop bet sizing is too small. His 4 bet size is also very small, about 2.5x then you 5 bet min raise???

I know that the 4bet preflop increase was small, I happen to be wrong with my hotkey (I have everything for hotkeys). Press an Open raise key instead of the 3bet one. I think I wanted to increase something like x3 or 3,5. I do not remember exactly. Beyond that, I even understand that I paid preflop but I do not understand the all-in payment with 4 outs, playing against the odds. I guess he would be resigned to losing all his chips. I acknowledge my error although I do not know if I had changed the complete outcome of the hand. Anyway, thank you guys for reminding me of my mistakes. Anyway, everything serves to learn and be attentive all the time.

I don't know about the rigged part.....

Loose aggressive lunatic that goes all the way with suited connectors... This time he is very lucky. I think he tried to bluff pre-flop and was planning to bluff all-in on the flop, only you shoved before. To call your All-in is just a fool gambling.

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