What to do with pocket's JJ?

FlamengoBR · Dec 15, 2018

Hi community! I was playing yesterday and my cards was

and I was utg1 ,blinds were 100/200 but it was a freerool with lots of maniac players and I decided to open raise to 600chips but the utg2 went all in of 2.870 chips and the dealer gave a call from utg 2 and I thought I was losing so I decided to fold this hand.
Utg2 had

and won the hand.

B1BOMBER · Dec 15, 2018

Well I don't care for JJ per say, but if I'm going to play it I go all in pre flop.

playinggameswithu · Dec 15, 2018

3x early, limp late for over trap. Can't just open fold em there the 4th best hand pre. But they are at a pinch point meaning if things get heated they are crushed or just flipping.

Queenlimp · Dec 15, 2018

Ideal when playing against a short stack.
Hard to get a feel where you are against a caller in position, a 4 bet or a flop with over-cards.

Jacks are a great way to lose a pot without caution.

John bruce · Dec 15, 2018

JJ play

I like to get a nice raise in pre flop specially if your in position and everyone limps in. If there is a raise before me I usually just call. Unless it allot of my chips I will see a flop. Honestly my kings get busted by Jack's way to many times. So play them. Let's play poker.:bike:

Bertie Wooster · Dec 15, 2018

FlamengoBR said:
Hi community! I was playing yesterday and my cards was and I was utg1 ,blinds were 100/200 but it was a freerool with lots of maniac players and I decided to open raise to 600chips but the utg2 went all in of 2.870 chips and the dealer gave a call from utg 2 and I thought I was losing so I decided to fold this hand.
Utg2 had and won the hand.

These freerolls are nuts. I am probably open-shoving JJ there and losing.

63burner · Dec 15, 2018

JJ get in the preflop raise first..

With JJ it is good to put in a modest raise pre-flop, get a feel for the bets after you. If some shove, folding isn't a disaster, you are only out your modest bet. But if you "feel it", with JJ, a counter shove isn't out of line. It's your game, your "feel."
Lot of different ways to approach JJ, same with any higher value pocket pair.

rodrigo1972 · Dec 15, 2018

it depends of my stack and position but I a always make a 3bet and c-bet

gryphon3005 · Dec 15, 2018

I believe the goal in an MTT freeroll is to make the top 4-5 seats on the final table to make a decent cash. BUT you first need to survive, and, that's what you did here. I think you played the had correctly from utg1. You could even have bet less and achieved the same result. It made no sense to call a shove from utg2 and a call from the button....JJ would be dominated most of the time.

vov4ik · Dec 16, 2018

I play JJ very carefully at an early stage of the tournament and even at some points I discard such cards, and when the game takes place at a late stage and in the tournament big bets, I play aggressively or play all-in!

kdawg71 · Dec 16, 2018

Most times in a free roll I will shove all in with them and the overall results have been more positive then negative. Lots of folds. Sometimes you get called with an Ace with a 10 or lower kicker. Sometimes people call with the 7 2 unsuited, but when you run up against a pre flop pair than you are either a 4 to 1 dog or a 4 to 1 favorite. Most of the time you beat the weaker pairs sometimes they beat you. sometimes you beat the bigger pair must mostly you get beat by them. That's the beauty of shoving all in because at that juncture of your game you have no control until everybody folds and if not, than you watch the hand play out. Either way a result. They are really great against the non stop raiser on a table.

Dmitriy_rus7 · Dec 16, 2018

if JJ drops out it all depends on the situation and the bank

Narcys · Dec 16, 2018

raise

tauri103 · Dec 16, 2018

As attractive as they are, JJ's starting hands will regularly confront you with serious problems. Whether preflop or post-flop, you often find it hard to know where they are exactly in relation to your opponent's hands, which makes them particularly difficult to play.

kristersb123 · Dec 16, 2018

I would make a raise preflop and propably shove if it's 1v1, but if there are a lot of people going all-in then you need to think about a fold

gabpoker · Dec 16, 2018

I have been working on focusing on how to play a range of hands in a situation rather than a specific hands. This had really helped make decisions like how to play JJ easier it just where it falls into the range.

najjah166 · Dec 16, 2018

I always had problems with JJ, low potential hand, everything depends on the position and stark, but do not venture too much with this hand

kddy · Dec 16, 2018

JJ is one of the most difficult hands to play, it is not such a bad hand to throw them on a raise, but it is not so powerful as to call an all-in.

I think it's best to try to get the pre-flop cards with JJ

efranto2286 · Dec 16, 2018

Hello it depends on the position and the amount of chips you also have the stage of the tournament you have to be careful with JJ is not strong enough to put everything in the pot

Amanda A · Dec 16, 2018

I don't know why people hate pocket jacks so much, I'll take em! I just played a tourney for almost 2 hours where I didn't have anything better than pocket 9's. Give me the Jacks!

skaniol · Dec 16, 2018

Igenerally win with them, but I try to avoid too big pots and risks. Here are my stats and hands for the last few months (mostly playing $1.5 Fifty50).

Loss x2 • Bad Beat x2 • Fold x6 • Good Fold x4 • Win x16 • Lucky Win x1
31 hands: 17 Win (55%) • 10 Fold (32%) • 4 Loss (13%)

GSALVATORE (1500 in chips): raises 90 to 120
starmom4 (1500 in chips): calls 120
skaniol (1485 in chips): calls 120
*** FLOP *** [3s 5c 2c]
GSALVATORE: bets 150
starmom4: folds
skaniol: raises 1215 to 1365 and is all-in
GSALVATORE: calls 1215
Board [3s 5c 2c 6c 2s]
Seat 2: skaniol (button) showed [Jh Jd] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Deuces
Seat 8: GSALVATORE showed [5h 5s] and won (3135) with a full house, Fives full of Deuces

Maverik 707 (2689 in chips): raises 100 to 200
skaniol (1019 in chips): calls 200
catscratch60 (3630 in chips): calls 100
*** FLOP *** [6h Td 9d]
catscratch60: checks
Maverik 707: bets 400
skaniol: folds
Board [6h Td 9d 3c As]
Seat 6: Maverik 707 showed [Qc Qh] and won (2110) with a pair of Queens
Seat 7: skaniol folded on the Flop

skaniol (150 in chips): raises 110 to 150 and is all-in
niubi797 (1485 in chips): raises 110 to 260
Board [4d 2h Ad Jc 6h]
Seat 2: skaniol showed [Jh Jd] and won (340) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 9: niubi797 (small blind) showed [Kh Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings

Seat 5: skaniol (big blind) collected (40)

Radler06 (1818 in chips): calls 80
skaniol (3594 in chips): calls 80
martina273 (2650 in chips): calls 40
joywithstars (1830 in chips): checks
Board [4c 8h 5h]
skaniol: bets 240
Seat 5: skaniol collected (360)

Heini045 (1650 in chips): calls 30
funky donny (1410 in chips): calls 30
skaniol (1440 in chips): calls 30
evido (1545 in chips): calls 15
KIDWICKED6 (1605 in chips): checks
Board [6s 6h 5h]
Seat 6: skaniol folded on the Flop
Seat 4: funky donny collected (150)

Bes9476 (1562 in chips): calls 80
K@Nalb9l (3271 in chips): raises 160 to 240
skaniol (1310 in chips): folds
Board [4c 5c 8h]
Seat 1: K@Nalb9l collected (640)
Seat 2: skaniol folded before Flop (didn't bet)

dudals (4397 in chips): calls 200
holerick888 (2012 in chips): calls 200
CletusCentre (3592 in chips): raises 3367 to 3567 and is all-in
rportaleoni (4099 in chips): raises 507 to 4074 and is all-in
skaniol (3267 in chips): folds
Board [5s 9c 6c 9s 3c]
Seat 1: rportaleoni (small blind) showed [Ks Kd] and won (7959) with two pair, Kings and Nines
Seat 2: skaniol (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: CletusCentre (button) showed [8h 5h] and lost with two pair, Nines and Fives

skaniol (3042 in chips): raises 2817 to 3017 and is all-in
jrjr0430 (2537 in chips): folds
Seat 2: skaniol (small blind) collected (600)

swanshot (1040 in chips): calls 80
skaniol (1295 in chips): calls 80
flavioinox (1860 in chips): calls 40
chuckyguy (4155 in chips): checks
*** FLOP *** [Qs Ac 9d]
skaniol: checks
*** TURN *** [Qs Ac 9d] [Qc]
flavioinox: bets 320
chuckyguy: folds
swanshot: raises 635 to 955 and is all-in
skaniol: folds
Board [Qs Ac 9d Qc Ad]
Seat 3: skaniol folded on the Turn
Seat 6: flavioinox (small blind) showed [Kc Ah] and won (1135) with a full house, Aces full of Queens
Seat 9: swanshot showed [As Qd] and won (1135) with a full house, Aces full of Queens

skaniol (1930 in chips): raises 100 to 150
Seat 8: skaniol collected (125)

4wheeled (2379 in chips): raises 80 to 160
skaniol (904 in chips): calls 120
*** FLOP *** [Jd Qs 4d]
skaniol: checks
4wheeled: checks
*** TURN *** [Jd Qs 4d] [7c]
skaniol: checks
4wheeled: bets 160
skaniol: calls 160
*** RIVER *** [Jd Qs 4d 7c] <font color='red'>5¢¾</font>
skaniol: bets 408
4wheeled: folds
Seat 5: skaniol (small blind) collected (755)

skaniol (1545 in chips): raises 60 to 120
Wallysonfr (795 in chips): raises 675 to 795 and is all-in
skaniol: calls 675
Board [Th 2h 3d Tc 3s]
Seat 5: skaniol showed [Jc Jh] and won (1680) with two pair, Jacks and Tens
Seat 6: Wallysonfr showed [7s 7d] and lost with two pair, Tens and Sevens

skaniol (1047 in chips): raises 60 to 120
Seat 3: skaniol collected (150)

skaniol (1235 in chips): raises 50 to 100
iskakove7 (880 in chips): raises 780 to 880 and is all-in
skaniol: calls 780
Board [5s 7d 6d 2d 5d]
Seat 3: skaniol showed [Js Jc] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Fives
Seat 8: iskakove7 (button) showed [Td Qs] and won (1835) with a flush, Ten high

modman59 (2550 in chips): raises 100 to 200
skaniol (2200 in chips)l: calls 200
roundlakeca (2700 in chips): raises 100 to 300
modman59: calls 100
skaniol: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [4s 2d Td]
roundlakeca: bets 100
modman59: calls 100
skaniol: calls 100
*** TURN *** [4s 2d Td] [Jh]
roundlakeca: bets 200
modman59: calls 200
skaniol: raises 200 to 400
roundlakeca: calls 200
modman59: calls 200
*** RIVER *** [4s 2d Td Jh] [4c]
skaniol: bets 200
roundlakeca: calls 200
Seat 4: skaniol (button) showed [Jc Jd] and won (2900) with a full house, Jacks full of Fours
Seat 5: roundlakeca (small blind) mucked [Kh As]

skaniol (1440 in chips): raises 50 to 100
Edeltraud65 (285 in chips): raises 185 to 285 and is all-in
skaniol: calls 185
Board [9s 2d Tc 7d 4d]
Seat 6: Edeltraud65 (big blind) showed [6d Ah] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 10: skaniol showed [Js Jh] and won (595) with a pair of Jacks

skaniol (8730 in chips): raises 500 to 1000
ACEMORE (2650 in chips): calls 1000
hari337 (5948 in chips): calls 500
*** FLOP *** [6s 4d 2c]
skaniol: bets 500
ACEMORE: calls 500
hari337: calls 500
*** TURN *** [6s 4d 2c] [9c]
skaniol: bets 1000
ACEMORE: raises 150 to 1150 and is all-in
hari337: calls 1150
skaniol: calls 150
*** RIVER *** [6s 4d 2c 9c] [2d]
skaniol: bets 1000
hari337: calls 1000
Seat 2: ACEMORE mucked [8c 8s]
Seat 5: hari337 (big blind) mucked [7s 6d]
Seat 8: skaniol showed [Jd Jh] and won (10200) with two pair, Jacks and Deuces

skaniol (1330 in chips): raises 80 to 160
londrax (1140 in chips): calls 160
K@Nalb9l (5695 in chips): raises 5530 to 5690 and is all-in
Seat 4: skaniol folded before Flop
Seat 6: K@Nalb9l (button) collected (640)

Statik2013 (5443 in chips): raises 100 to 200
skaniol (1040 in chips): raises 830 to 1030 and is all-in
Statik2013: calls 830
Board [As Ts Qh Ks Ah]
Seat 5: skaniol (big blind) showed [Jd Jh] and won (2180) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 7: Statik2013 showed [7h 3h] and lost with a pair of Aces

skaniol (655 in chips): raises 545 to 645 and is all-in
Seat 8: skaniol (small blind) collected (380)

skaniol (1237 in chips): raises 1102 to 1222 and is all-in
Seat 9: skaniol collected (420)

nolimitsfire (8104 in chips): raises 7744 to 8064 and is all-in
skaniol (4751 in chips): calls 4391 and is all-in
Board [Js Kd Qc 8d Ts]
Seat 5: nolimitsfire (small blind) showed [Qs Ac] and won (9742) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 6: skaniol (big blind) showed [Jc Jh] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks

Rooierd (1500 in chips): raises 30 to 60
skaniol (1500 in chips): calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Qc 2d Ad]
Rooierd: bets 83
skaniol: folds

wermaier50 (23606 in chips): calls 1600
skaniol (17203 in chips): raises 15453 to 17053 and is all-in
hm_beltran (15655 in chips): calls 15505 and is all-in
Board [4c 5c Tc As 4d]
Seat 3: skaniol showed [Jc Jh] and won (36210) with two pair, Jacks and Fours
Seat 4: hm_beltran showed [Qh Kh] and lost with a pair of Fours

JEAN HANNING (3000 in chips): raises 2980 to 3000 and is all-in
skaniol (3000 in chips): folds

dobromir1992 (32051 in chips): calls 800
skaniol (8156 in chips): raises 7256 to 8056 and is all-in
jimmyjca (57993 in chips): calls 7256
dobromir1992: folds
Board [3h Qh Kd As 6h]
Seat 1: skaniol showed [Jc Js] and won (18112) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 4: jimmyjca (big blind) showed [2s 4s] and lost with high card Ace

PgOeKnEnRa (11272 in chips): raises 100 to 200
BesseNuts (13559 in chips): calls 200
Khrenya (5197 in chips): calls 200
skaniol (1550 in chips): raises 1350 to 1550 and is all-in
PgOeKnEnRa: raises 9722 to 11272 and is all-in
Board [7s 9s 5d 3c 8h]
Seat 5: PgOeKnEnRa showed [Kd Kc] and won (3650) with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: skaniol (button) showed [Jh Jc] and lost with a pair of Jacks

pamela6767 (2465 in chips): raises 2315 to 2465 and is all-in
skaniol (3508 in chips): folds
Seat 8: pamela6767 collected (375)

skaniol (3193 in chips): raises 50 to 100
valera9559 (2545 in chips): calls 100
peetn100 (3138 in chips): calls 100
Rood00 (6520 in chips): calls 100
Yuriy-Zpr (1860 in chips): calls 75
gavilan5464 (2970 in chips): calls 50
*** FLOP *** [3d 3s Jh]
skaniol: bets 50
peetn100: calls 50
Rood00: calls 50
Yuriy-Zpr: calls 50
*** TURN *** [3d 3s Jh] [6h]
skaniol: bets 150
Seat 8: skaniol collected (800)

Ewgencheff85 (156081 in chips): raises 3300 to 4300
abdyl 1989 (27113 in chips): raises 22713 to 27013 and is all-in
skaniol (13600 in chips): folds
Board [6d Td 8h 4h Ad]
Seat 5: Ewgencheff85 showed [Ts Th] and won (56326) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 6: abdyl 1989 showed [8d 8s] and lost with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 9: skaniol (big blind) folded before Flop

Rui Ferreira · Dec 16, 2018

FlamengoBR said:
Hi community! I was playing yesterday and my cards was and I was utg1 ,blinds were 100/200 but it was a freerool with lots of maniac players and I decided to open raise to 600chips but the utg2 went all in of 2.870 chips and the dealer gave a call from utg 2 and I thought I was losing so I decided to fold this hand.
Utg2 had and won the hand.

Out of respect your decision more with JJ does not have to give up no, you were very weak in this even more if it is a freeroll tournament

sryulaw · Dec 16, 2018

JJ from the position you were in, it's a good hand to play .. even more against maniacs, I would call and go to the ground .. the fact that you are the result of a hand that you fold, and did not play does not mean that if you had paid yourself, the cards would be the same .. The character changes when you play .. At pokerstars, moving the mouse, everything changes the faces of the next faces.

leon4iggg · Dec 16, 2018

I am raising it every time and if someone calling it and flop is good for me i am making ALL-IN instantly)

dimebag13697 · Dec 16, 2018

JJ is my least favorite PP. No matter what I do with it, it always seems to be the wrong move lol

What to do with pocket's JJ?

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