Pocket 10s in BB linecheck

No specific reads on V. I think pre is fine, but i'm in doubt whether or not i should've x/r otf to let's say something like 26 BB so we can jam the turn.
I think V's range here is A9s+, AT+, KTs+, KQ, 55+. Maybe even TJ/QJ combo's. Is this to tight of a range (considering i only got 14 hands)?

Or can we maybe even find a fold somewhere?

pokerstars - 15/30 Ante 4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

UTG: 76.13 BB (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
MP: 116.03 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 15)
BTN: 102.53 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
SB: 95.03 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
Hero (BB): 95.9 BB

6 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has Th Ts

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 8 BB, Hero calls 7 BB, MP calls 5 BB

Flop: (24.8 BB, 3 players) 2s 7s 6d
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets 10.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 10.4 BB

Turn: (45.6 BB, 2 players) 8s
Hero checks, MP bets 16.4 BB, Hero raises to 77.37 BB and is all-in

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bianconi_10 said:

No specific reads on V. I think pre is fine, but i'm in doubt whether or not i should've x/r otf to let's say something like 26 BB so we can jam the turn.
I think V's range here is A9s+, AT+, KTs+, KQ, 55+. Maybe even TJ/QJ combo's. Is this to tight of a range (considering i only got 14 hands)?

Or can we maybe even find a fold somewhere?

PokerStars - 15/30 Ante 4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

UTG: 76.13 BB (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
MP: 116.03 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 15)
BTN: 102.53 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
SB: 95.03 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
Hero (BB): 95.9 BB

6 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has Th Ts

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 8 BB, Hero calls 7 BB, MP calls 5 BB

Flop: (24.8 BB, 3 players) 2s 7s 6d
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets 10.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 10.4 BB

Turn: (45.6 BB, 2 players) 8s
Hero checks, MP bets 16.4 BB, Hero raises to 77.37 BB and is all-in

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Thank you for posting

Are you playing vs players who bet and call with hands worse than 1010 here?
Are you turning 1010 into a bluff?
Are you calling pre to set mine?
Will you be folding the 1010 on paint boards?
If your villains are raising and 3 betting with a wide range of hands that 1010 is ahead of, why are you not 4 betting 1010?

Your initial range of hands for villain should change on every street. What would villain bet on that turn for value vs BB 3 bet calling range?

Hope this helps

bianconi_10 said:

No specific reads on V. I think pre is fine, but i'm in doubt whether or not i should've x/r otf to let's say something like 26 BB so we can jam the turn.
I think V's range here is A9s+, AT+, KTs+, KQ, 55+. Maybe even TJ/QJ combo's. Is this to tight of a range (considering i only got 14 hands)?

Or can we maybe even find a fold somewhere?

PokerStars - 15/30 Ante 4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

UTG: 76.13 BB (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
MP: 116.03 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 15)
BTN: 102.53 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
SB: 95.03 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
Hero (BB): 95.9 BB

6 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has Th Ts

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 8 BB, Hero calls 7 BB, MP calls 5 BB

Flop: (24.8 BB, 3 players) 2s 7s 6d
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets 10.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 10.4 BB

Turn: (45.6 BB, 2 players) 8s
Hero checks, MP bets 16.4 BB, Hero raises to 77.37 BB and is all-in

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Push is not a problem!Looks like the best decision.

TT out of position after raise and 3bet is fold by default. you can find fold on every street

Cold calling a 3-bet is not something, I do very often, and I think, its kind of the worst of all three options. You are not closing action, and if original raiser come in for a 4-bet, you have to fold without even seeing the flop.

That sucks, and even when original raiser just call, how are you really going to win here? Unless you snap your set, you are left with a medium pair, which is an extremely rough type of hand to play in a 3-way 3-bet pot.

Even when you flop an overpair like here, someone could easily have a better overpair, a set or two pair, and you are pretty much going to hate all future cards. Given that you decided to get involved and hit this kind of decent flop, you obviously have to continue on the flop, and I also cant find a fold on the turn.

But I dont think, jamming the turn really does anything. If he is bluffing, he is just going to snap fold, and if he is betting for value, you are almost always beat. Maybe he can have 99 once in a moon, but its an extremely small part of his range, and he might even consider folding that to a jam.

I understand, that the river is going to be awkward, if you just call. Out of position, a pot sized bet left, almost no cards you like. But this is exactly the whole issue with even getting involved with TT in a 3-bet pot. The pot is going to get bloated very quickly, and you need to think that step ahead, before you press that "call" button preflop.

This is honestly a little bit spewy, especially because it happened in one of the first few blind levels, where your focus should really be on surviving and trying to chip up slowly without risking your tournament live.

Wel played till turn.On turn let him bluf/draw w AKo.
And be prepared to fold on river if A,K comes, and if spade comes and villain bet large.

AT least if you raise raise smaller.

Every street could potentially be played differently. Preflop is definitely reasonable, but I can get behind a 4bet too in this configuration.

On flop, I can't see myself ever check raising. What would be the purpose? Are we trying to stuff in 90bb on the flop with the worst overpair that anyone is likely to have? We'd only be getting in vs better, and MASSIVE draws usually (FD's with 2 overs to our pair). So I like the just call.

Turn has the same problem though. Why are we check jamming? This seems like a huge overplay to me where we are just afraid of making decisions on future streets. All in all I just don't expect us to ever be called by worse when we take this action, so effectively we turn 10's into an equity denial jam at best or a horrible bluff at worst.