I had no idea what to do here...

This is a hand from the Goliath Main Event (£120 buy-in). I'm a fairly inexperienced player, so please don't be too harsh if it's obvious what I should have done.
Playing 9-handed. Blinds are 1000/2000 with a 200 ante. Utg+1 (~200k) calls, LJ (~100k) calls, I am in CO with 55 (60k), I call. SB (80k) calls, BB (~180k) calls. Pot is 11800. Utg+1 is a calling station, rarely limp-folds, SB is solid TAG. No other real info.

Flop is 875 rainbow, checked to me. I bet 5k. SB raises to 15k, BB shoves. Folded round to me. What do I do?

I paid, for sure, you have a chance to do the ful house, or hit it or 5, which makes you even better. 70% of the time everyone misses the flop, and you're right, you're certainly ahead.

PatchPS said:

This is a hand from the Goliath Main Event (£120 buy-in). I'm a fairly inexperienced player, so please don't be too harsh if it's obvious what I should have done.
Playing 9-handed. Blinds are 1000/2000 with a 200 ante. Utg+1 (~200k) calls, LJ (~100k) calls, I am in CO with 55 (60k), I call. SB (80k) calls, BB (~180k) calls. Pot is 11800. Utg+1 is a calling station, rarely limp-folds, SB is solid TAG. No other real info.

Flop is 875 rainbow, checked to me. I bet 5k. SB raises to 15k, BB shoves. Folded round to me. What do I do?

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Lets have a look at the situation.

You could be up against 69 or 46 or both, because it is quiet a co-oridinated flop.
Possibly an over set, or someone with a 6x hoping for a 9 or 4.

Conservative play in tournament, I would consider folding and live to fight another day. If it was 1 player, I would say you have a chance, but a re raise and an all-in shove suggests that one OR BOTH have you beat. I think at least 1 of these guys has you beat, the other probably has 6x. I would consider folding here.

Sometimes with a really co-oridinated flop I check and see the turn, to lessen the variance.

2 Things happen now;

1) A guy that has flopped the straight comes out firing the turn because he is scared his monster will not be paid off ...
2) If they check round to you, I think you could be comfortable feeling that you are ahead. Make it expensive for them to see the river !

Also the chances that they make their draws are significantly reduced, and you can bet enough to make it an expensive call.

Gut feel is he had you beat, that'd be a bad play to make it he was on a draw.

The mistake here was potentially letting too many people into the pot for cheap. If he did have a 4 6 for example it's unlikely he'd have seen the pot if there'd been a pre-flop 3 x raise.

PatchPS said:

This is a hand from the Goliath Main Event (£120 buy-in). I'm a fairly inexperienced player, so please don't be too harsh if it's obvious what I should have done.

Playing 9-handed. Blinds are 1000/2000 with a 200 ante. Utg+1 (~200k) calls, LJ (~100k) calls, I am in CO with 55 (60k), I call. SB (80k) calls, BB (~180k) calls. Pot is 11800. Utg+1 is a calling station, rarely limp-folds, SB is solid TAG. No other real info.



Flop is 875 rainbow, checked to me. I bet 5k. SB raises to 15k, BB shoves. Folded round to me. What do I do?

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You're bet is light and may show you're trying to steal the pot cheaply. Bump it up to ~2/3 of the pot. Also you got bottom trips and the board is showing a straight. Everyone limp and those suited connectors love that. A player has hit this flop. Either completed straight or 88/77. SB raise is appropriate.
The shove here says what?
1. I have nothing and you fold.
2. I played 69 off and I win with being allowed into the pot from the big blind.
You have a smallish stack and calling here with 30 BB isn't a bad call. Although you can fold and wait. (I'd call). I know your up against trips and/or straight.

Bet larger (8k) on flop.

Calling it off with 30bb here every time, however I'm not too happy about it. Villain's ranges go something like, 64/69/75/87/85/77/88 and we have 45% equity against that range.

I actually wouldnt mind a check on the flop. controls pot, this board nails everyones range. we could be betting into sets or two pair hands or even just better pairs and only worse hands fold. so we dont really get value from much and we arwnt bluffing anyone off a better hand. so i just check and call down most times. unless he triple barrels or has some ridiculous sizing

i dont think the bet is bad we price out a lot of draws that have decent equity against us, i just think checking is better

Tough spot. I think it's instant shove against SB, but when BB shoves I assume that at least one of them higher set or more likely straight. Maybe it's a call when there's a flush draw and you don't have a blocker, but in this spot I think I'm folding.

Looking at stack sizes and the board I'm calling the BB shove here esp if we're now heads up. Def not folding due to fear of set over set, if it's a higher set gg.

And as others said, sure there's the BB special hitting a flopped straight but with a set here we still have outs to fill up by river to a boat.

Villian could also be shoving their open ended straight draw or overpair.

I'm calling that shove here nearly every time.

oh haha, ignore my comment, i thought OP had 66 not 55 woops

30bb always call in this situation, if you die, you die, lol. But if you were deeper you could go by gto-ish mindset. What you bet here for value? sets and two pairs? You probably won't have 88 here, because you might raise them preflop. How about 77? if you bet only sets for value, it's ok to foldd 55, otherwise you don't fold anything. But if you don't have 88 and 77 in your range then it is mandatory call because it is top of your range. I assume you dont have 96 in your range.

I guess that you should be more aggressive pre flop, IMO, you cant fold a set with a rainbow board, ok, it may give a straight, but they might have a lot of pairs with a gut shot, two pairs and hands that you are beating.

If you had bet preflop, you would gather more information to take that decision