I need help. Is my call justified?

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Hey guys. I recently (15 minutes ago) deposited $110 to play in a 100k tournament in Americas Cardroom. The first hand comes and I get 22 with a 2 of hearts. I am in the cutoff and I know nothing about my opponents at this time. The big blind and small blind post (25) (50) The starting stack is 10,000 this tournament is 8max so 8 players are in this table. The player UTG folds and UTG +1 raises making it 150. UTG +2 folds and MP calls and I call. The button folds and the SB pops it up to 665. The BB folds and UTG +1 calls MP calls and I call. I decided to call since so many players called before me and I figured that if I hit a 2 I could win a very good pot. I felt like the risk was worth the reward. Also it would be very easy to fold if a 2 did not come or so I thought. The flop comes 4 5 6 of hearts. I have straight draws, flush draws and a straight flush draw. The small blind shoves all in (9,335) UTG +1 folds and MP calls. I thought about it for a second. I knew I was most likely behind. I figured the SB could have an over pair as well as the MP. I don't think anyone would ever have 78 or A2 in this spot so I was sure no one had a straight. Judging by the pre-flop action the only hand that logically made a flush would be AK of hearts. So I was not too afraid of someone having a flush. I figured that the SB was protecting his over pair from flushes and straight draws so I was sure he did not have a heart. I felt like MP would only call this shove with a made hand. So I assumed he had an over pair or a set. The pot was massive considering it was my first hand. I knew that I had some outs and I figured that winning this pot could make the difference between potentially winning this tournament or not. I was willing to lose my $110 deposit knowing that I had several draws. So I called.
MP had made a set of 5's so he did not have any flush or straight draws. The SB had 10 10 with no heart. The turn came a 10 of diamonds and the river a 4 of clubs. I know I made some mistakes possibly preflop, but do you guys think my call is justified considering all the factors? Thank you!
 
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The odds on the flop were
22 32.5%
55 57.5%
TT 4.5%

So thats kind of breakeven long term (but, thats only in this situation), you get into a 3way pot with 33% equity for stacks. However, we only know this when the cards are revealed after we make the decision

However, if one of the tens was a heart or indeed he had any big pair including a heart your odds go way down to 11.5%.

Long term, if you like money, its a fold.
 
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I think that preflop analysis was right, including part when you said "it would be very easy to fold if a 2 did not come".... After that, i don't understand why you didn't fold, in fact, you find an unexpected veeeery good situation when cards were revealed... really, hardly ever a 2 of hearts will work to get nut flush draw in that situation.
 
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Fold to the squeeze preflop. Your call off is terrible here. It's very possible someone shows up with a better flush draw here and you have terrible equity against not one, but two hands who have shoved.
 
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risky

It was very risky because to get the best hand for you depended only one outs was 3 hearts for your straight flush but I understand sometimes we get carried away by the excitement of the game:eek:
 
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I would have personally not even seen the flop after a pre flop re-raise. than chasing in that spot on flop was bad. your reads were good so it should have been an even easier fold. crushed by any pocket pair that wasn't on the board. crushed by every heart in the deck if a 4th heart hit the board. that should have been an insta fold in my opinion.
 
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The odds on the flop were
22 32.5%
55 57.5%
TT 4.5%

So thats kind of breakeven long term (but, thats only in this situation), you get into a 3way pot with 33% equity for stacks. However, we only know this when the cards are revealed after we make the decision

However, if one of the tens was a heart or indeed he had any big pair including a heart your odds go way down to 11.5%.

Long term, if you like money, its a fold.






Thanks man. I agree that long term this is a fold. Thanks for the input.
 
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I think that preflop analysis was right, including part when you said "it would be very easy to fold if a 2 did not come".... After that, i don't understand why you didn't fold, in fact, you find an unexpected veeeery good situation when cards were revealed... really, hardly ever a 2 of hearts will work to get nut flush draw in that situation.

Yea I guess I just felt that if I did win it I could score a huge win and potentially make my first 20k win. As I called I knew it was not the right call, but I did it thinking that it might be worth it. Thanks for the input.
 
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Fold to the squeeze preflop. Your call off is terrible here. It's very possible someone shows up with a better flush draw here and you have terrible equity against not one, but two hands who have shoved.

Yea that's what I was thinking at the time. I guess I just felt like if a 2 hit with two players in flops like (A 10 2 ) would pay me off nicely. Thanks for the input.
 
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It was very risky because to get the best hand for you depended only one outs was 3 hearts for your straight flush but I understand sometimes we get carried away by the excitement of the game:eek:

Yea I definitely got a little carried away. Thanks for the comment !
 
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I would have personally not even seen the flop after a pre flop re-raise. than chasing in that spot on flop was bad. your reads were good so it should have been an even easier fold. crushed by any pocket pair that wasn't on the board. crushed by every heart in the deck if a 4th heart hit the board. that should have been an insta fold in my opinion.


I guess I just felt like seeing the flop could work since my hand would be very disguised and a flop like (2 4 8) or "safe" flops would get me paid off, but I agree that if no one went all in and the 4th card was a heart that would be an easy fold.
 
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