$Freeroll NLHE MTT: When should I fold an overpair?

Andres Malaver

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This is a hand in which I suspect defeat, but I still have trouble folding my cards with a strong overpair. :mad:

This is the openskill freeroll tournament, at the end of the tournament.
I finish eleventh, despite my mistake I stayed calm and I managed to advance sufficiently. :p

That said I have some questions: When should I fold overpair? Is this a correct call? Why?

Thanks for taking the time to read this post :deal:

Be a winner not a bettor :) :)
 

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I played in this league years ago before they merged and made the PSO global and increased the payouts. Back then I found players where playing for the points and there was not much difference in 12-8th in positional for points,not sure if its the same now. But I often looked up players in the standings and looked at how many points they may be needing. Not sure where I was going but the point system does factor in a little to how you play.

One obvious sign of strength is how he just clicks raise in the manner that he is just doubling your bet,its a lazy way to play poker and sends a tell most of the time.
From 18th down there is always a bad beat of AA vs. KK where some one gets knocked out. But I am a little more open at this stage to the double up before final table. Its so important to hit it with a middle to top 3 stack in my opinion.
So I have no problem getting it in and having a race against his narrow range.
You have to remember he is most likely doing this with AQ+ and TT+ if not worse,so its not like you are calling or shoving with garbage.
 
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It is a correct call you are ahead a lot of the time hand only behind to a small number of hands.

I don't like the play on the hand though. You should have 4 bet it preflop as you were OOP. I also prefer check raising the flop instead of leading.
 
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First i will never flat call this QQ on pre flop, i will 4bet him.

After that is nice the call flop, a lot of players just shove the top par, or TT, JJ.
 
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This one pretty much just looks like a cooler without history on villain. I would not be folding this hand unless btn has been an absolute rock, and even then I probably go broke with QQ here anyway.

I raise smaller pre with antes -- usually 2.2 so 880 or 900, definitely not 4x to 1600

Definitely 4bet pre. if the opening raise was smaller there is room to 4bet and possibly fold to the 5bet which is going to be a strong narrow range for BTN when the 3bet range is probably fairly wide.
 
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It just depends..LOL soo many variations
 
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Hello, as far as your raise preflop is well and also, when the flop comes I would have checked since it would be in a medium position and the one in a late leaving the option to raise or pass with which you would already arias Idea of more or less what it takes, seeing the community cards and the raise before the flop would be a high pair, so he would have bet and the best option is retire
 
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yes, specially in a freeroll this is the right play, i think i would just shove all in preflop after this weak 3 bet, which was a good bait bet by villain, who got lucky to have aces in the same hand you got pocket queens.
 
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Is very hard to fold QQ there...just a bad beat if u ask me:)
 
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Just unlucky , the flop didn't help you (A or K ) to fold , you could't do anything to avoid not to put your stack in . I would just raise preflop 2x or 2.5 , call the reraise and check raise the flop . Good luck to the next ones :)
 
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Yes,this is a bad beat,,you can`t expect to fold there,what hand are you waiting for there? sometimes in poker your just in a tough spot and hopefully you can sustain the hit and still move on in the tournament:angel:
 
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It really comes down to many factors.

1) How was the player/Villain playing, up til that point?
2) Are they passive? Are they overly aggressive? Are they Insane?

Without really knowing these 2, really how can anyone tell you anything.
 
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Just an unfortunate cooler. Even in freerolls, people who are shoving may have woken up with a big hand.
 
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