$Freeroll NLHE MTT: two pair -but a "scary" board

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OK, Guys n Gals Cardschat freeroll about 20 players left, I had approx. 25 Bbs , Villain is big stack over 50 Bbs, I was in the SB and there was 2 limpers, in front of me, BB is super passive I knew he would not raise so I took a chance and completed SB to take a Multi-way flop. I appreciate all analysis and critiques. Bet sizing is horrible, my only defense was did not want to get raised- which is no defense.

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NL Holdem $400(BB)
CO ($60)
BTN ($22298)
HERO ($11159)
BB ($3800)
UTG ($19959)
MP ($4534)
HJ ($2870)


Dealt to Hero J 6


UTG Folds, MP Calls $400 (Rem. Stack: 4094), HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Calls $400 (Rem. Stack: 21858), HERO Calls $200 (Rem. Stack: 10719), BB Checks


Flop ($1880) J Q 2
HERO Bets $400 (Rem. Stack: 10319), BB Folds, MP Folds, BTN Calls $400 (Rem. Stack: 21458)


Turn ($2680) J Q 2 6
HERO Bets $1340 (Rem. Stack: 8979), BTN Calls $1340 (Rem. Stack: 20118)


River ($5360) J Q 2 6 9
HERO Bets $600 (Rem. Stack: 8379), BTN Calls $600 (Rem. Stack: 19518)


BTN shows 9 J


BTN wins $6560
 
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Preflop - I would've just folded here. I understand the temptation to see a cheap flop but from my experience this often leads to trouble. I would generally only limp in here with a small pocket pair or decent suited connectors and check/fold if I don't hit something good.

Flop - You are out of position with middle pair and a weak kicker. I would just check and fold to a decent raise. Are you trying to thin the field with this bet?

Turn - Your bet here is fine. Too bad he called you with J9 but that's freerolls for ya.

River - With two pair I would usually make a bigger bet here. It wouldn't have worked out but that illustrates the problem with limping in with marginal/weak hands.
 
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With that prize that you are given is the correct limp from the SB with a suited J.
On the flop you are OOP against 3 opponents.
Why betting there?
The only reasonable answer is to protect your hand and take down the pot right now.
But a Qx is definitely on the limpers range, so you don't want to value yourself.
So a check from you is a must trying to see a free turn.
Now on the turn you should bet larger and to protect your hand and extract some value from Jx and all the FDs.
On the river you made a block bet witch I like, but almost always you are going to get called from a club, so if you want to try to take the pot bet big or c/f if you believe that the opponent won't fold.
 
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Just wanted to thank the people who responded. I am trying to play more MTT, while at the same time I work mostly on my cash game. So I do really listen to what people have to say about these spots that I post.

I have identified my tournament play "biggest" leak, I find that in the middle late stage when ante's and BB go up and the stacks are between 15 -25. This is where I find myself unsure of how to proceed. Recognizing the problem is 1 st step to correcting it.
 
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I must agree with nucl for the most part here. Mistakes were made on earlier streets.

Thats why I actually dont like the blockbet on the river here. I much rather want to blockbet this with my straight or weak clubs. As played the villian just got a too good price for his draws. 3/4 to potsize bet on the turn should do the trick.
9c is literally the card were every draw gets there, so easy x/f on the river imo.
depends on the villian i guess, but that would be my standart approach
 
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Preflop - I would've just folded here. I understand the temptation to see a cheap flop but from my experience this often leads to trouble. I would generally only limp in here with a small pocket pair or decent suited connectors and check/fold if I don't hit something good.

Flop - You are out of position with middle pair and a weak kicker. I would just check and fold to a decent raise. Are you trying to thin the field with this bet?

Turn - Your bet here is fine. Too bad he called you with J9 but that's freerolls for ya.

River - With two pair I would usually make a bigger bet here. It wouldn't have worked out but that illustrates the problem with limping in with marginal/weak hands.

With that prize that you are given is the correct limp from the SB with a suited J.
On the flop you are OOP against 3 opponents.
Why betting there?
The only reasonable answer is to protect your hand and take down the pot right now.
But a Qx is definitely on the limpers range, so you don't want to value yourself.
So a check from you is a must trying to see a free turn.
Now on the turn you should bet larger and to protect your hand and extract some value from Jx and all the FDs.
On the river you made a block bet witch I like, but almost always you are going to get called from a club, so if you want to try to take the pot bet big or c/f if you believe that the opponent won't fold.

I must agree with nucl for the most part here. Mistakes were made on earlier streets.

Thats why I actually dont like the blockbet on the river here. I much rather want to blockbet this with my straight or weak clubs. As played the villian just got a too good price for his draws. 3/4 to potsize bet on the turn should do the trick.
9c is literally the card were every draw gets there, so easy x/f on the river imo.
depends on the villian i guess, but that would be my standart approach

Again, just want to thank you all for taking the time to give your views on my HH - it is a gig help to me.
 
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I would like to point out that you lost almost 1/3 of your stack playing OOP and multiway , this is something you must avoid in the future!

If you want to complete the SB which is something totally acceptable try out to do it at least with hands with more connectivity , with a hand like J6s you don't have potential for straight ;) I believe you got my point.


Good luck :)
 
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