a very good position with a very good hand and a lot of emotions in the end
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Stopped at your raise.
2 limps we have 20bb we raise and not shove? Why not isolate or take the pot down? One of the limpers has 11bb left after limping we could be targeting that stack with a shove.
Did you know they would fold their entire limping range to a shove? What about a 6bb raise preflop what happens then? Might the small stack think you are stealing and reshove?
4bb pot if everyone folds pre that is a 20% stack increase not a bad outcome.
Our raise to 9600 makes the pot 19k ish 7200 to call so BB is getting 2.6 to 1 and if the BB calls we could have the domino effect where each player gets better
odds to call and they all just assume we have AA and call with hands that crack it but are not dominated by it.
Next action
BB folds but the big stack that can break us takes the
pot odds and the smaller stack does as well. This certainly looks like we could have shoved and got heads up with the 11bb stack. It seems the shorty wants to see a flop.
In a tournament we need to protect our stack when we are 20bb or lower as we cannot really fold post flop now.
Flop
We effectively shove the flop getting no value from weaker hands and only being called by stronger hands. So we do not punish the V(villains) for chasing we let them off the hook We even have the AH so we eliminate that draw on the flop but have the backdoor redraw ourselves.
You may have played this exact spot perfectly. Getting 6bb extra preflop and protecting against some runner runner suck out hand. Happy for U that you won the pot.
Here are some thoughts that may be of value.
So when we see this flop and decide to shove which is what a half our stack bet is we know we have to call. If we know we are not folding this flop why not small bet call off any raise- which allows the first limper with a big stack to
bluff us or if we get 2 more calls we win say 3 bb from each caller and then we shove turns? Would that strategy not be more inline with your preflop choice to not shove? Also if the short stack chases again they have 5bb left and call off on a prayer on the turn some of the time.
Your V seemed to be doing exactly what I said they were doing- playing AA crackers and the short stack had the best of it. The short stack had the chance to double + their stack for 3bb. While taking almost no risk post-flop.
Was it possible to take an action that would get either limper to over play 1 pair hands on that flop? If you checked knowing you were never folding was the big stack aggressive enough to try to steal the pot with the shorty still in there?
I would be expecting to get a large number of folds or lose my stack to that sizing on that flop. So I would be happy with the folds.
I would still be wondering though if had I shoved preflop one of these V would have called or even both meaning I left 8bb min 24 bb maximum on the table.
Hope this helps