I'm not trying to hijack this thread by any means -- I always see ppl advocating for seeing flops multiway with smaller and middling pairs - i try to give my best perspective and even lay some math on the table to help support my opinion. TONS of players - including many on here - are lighting chips on fire in these spots. Yes when we hit we get paid alot - we also find ourselves coolered more and drawn out on more than usual -- because we lose alot ofraw equity when there are multiple villans in the pot.
Focus more on relative hand strength and how well you're going to be able to play post flop vs "well, if i hit" - because saving 2,3, or 4bb in 5 or 6 spots across the tournament can make the difference between you rebuking unnecessarily busting out too soon, and whether or not you even make the money.
Don't get this wrong, I am singling out no one in this thread. I see lots of members here advocating for these spots and take this for what its worth - its easy to fold here, find better places, and conserve chips by avoiding bad spots, you will notice an immediate difference to how deep you go in your tournaments and the spots that you do go broke on
i can't speak for anyone else, but while i know folding here is the better option, i also like to say 'lets gambol' sometimes and get it in. especially if it's a spot where i can still re-enter/re-buy and have more big blinds starting if i miss and bust out. if i hit, good for me.
in no way am i trying to give bad information and i wouldn't give any advice on something i wouldn't do myself. i'm also not saying my advice is correct and yours is wrong, or vice versa. instead, i think it's good for op to have some options as what they can do while understanding the risk v reward for their action. yes, getting it in this spot is risky but, imo, so is not taking the risk as well. there is no knowing that, by folding, you'll be put in a better spot to get your money in. and there is no knowing that you're giving up a better opportunity later if you get your money in now, in op's situation.
now, this is how i personally view this situation when i play, but i lean more taking necessary risks as they come and not passing up on the opportunity. i play with a very simple motto of 'no regrets' and by that i mean i don't want to regret or second guess any of my actions, no matter what the result is. so in this situation, i'll regret not taking the risk here. i'd rather take the 'gambol' in this spot and and bust out instead of folding and potentially being forced to play a mediocre hand for less big blinds because i have no other options. now, it's impossible to know what will happen if i fold; i could easily get qq+ 10 hands in a row but i could also just get a bunch of hands i just can't play.
so, taking the risk now is going to be more in my favor than taking one later on. especially if i'm risking the chance of not even getting a better hand/situation to get my money with. in the end, whether i play/don't play this situation, i'll be taking some risk at some point because my stack is so shallow and i think it's best to take my chances now, especially when the reward (pot size) is worth it. i have an opportunity to more than triple up my stack as a severe short stack. i'm not going to get many opportunities like this if i fold here.
again, not saying you're wrong or i'm right. just giving my perspective on things.
edit: obv, this is a fold on the money bubble, significant money ladder spot, final table bubble, or a final table money ladder spot. if it's no where near the money, then i play the hand.
edit2: i've always be weary about giving advice on the hand analysis section because i am a very high risk/high reward player when i get to being the short stack. while my intention is to not give bad advice, i want to be true with how i approach and play certain situations and what i'm comfortable with doing. but i also understand that it might not be what others want to do.
so, i'll be interested to see what other members' take on my 'advice' is.