$Freeroll NLHE MTT: Is shoving here the only answer?

MatMackenz

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Hand was played at the CC $100 Freeroll on ACR. Busted out in 22nd place.

Hero has 16 BB and is dealt QQ in the SB. MP opens to a huge amount 4.4BB!?!?, MP1 cold calls , and I am left with a decision.

3 options

- Flat call and go to the flop multi-way and out of position
- 3-bet All-in
- Fold

Since I normally 3-bet 3.5x-4x when OOP, All-in is the only option for a raise.

Would like to hear others ideas on how this was played, and what other people would have done in this situation.


https://upswingpoker.com/hand/?pokeit=3q1JWahW

Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $500/$1,000 ($125 ante) - 7 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 27/15/2

Bostard (UTG): $3,048.00 (3 bb)
pokerrule19 (MP): $20,696.00 (21 bb)
Nemesis38 (MP+1): $20,355.00 (20 bb)
cyrogenic1 (CO): $14,049.00 (14 bb)
Syltan (BU): $31,612.00 (32 bb)
mAcKz_88 (SB): $15,916.00 (16 bb)
kdawg71 (BB): $8,086.00 (8 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($2,375) Hero (mAcKz_88) is SB with Q Q
1 fold, pokerrule19 (MP) raises to $4,375, Nemesis38 (MP+1) calls $4,375, 2 players fold, mAcKz_88 (SB) 3-bets to $15,791 (all-in), 1 fold, pokerrule19 (MP) 4-bets to $20,571 (all-in), 1 fold

Flop: ($37,832) 8 A 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($37,832) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($37,832) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $37,832 (Rake: $0)

Showdown:
pokerrule19 (MP) mucks A Q (two pair, Aces and Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 34%, Flop: 96%, Turn: 98%, River: 100%)

mAcKz_88 (SB) mucks Q Q (two pair, Queens and Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 66%, Flop: 4%, Turn: 2%, River: 0%)

pokerrule19 (MP) wins $37,832
 
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i would have done the the same probably with the information you gave.
the is not much other you can do.
if you raise smaller ( or call what is worse) an the do a conti bet, you hate the ace and have only 18 BB.
i would say regarding the position it is a good move with an bad result
 
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You played well, 16BB is too low to 3 bet, with QQ that's an easy shove, you just got unlucky, no cares on your game!
 
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Hand was played at the CC $100 Freeroll on ACR. Busted out in 22nd place.

Hero has 16 BB and is dealt QQ in the SB. MP opens to a huge amount 4.4BB!?!?, MP1 cold calls , and I am left with a decision.

3 options

- Flat call and go to the flop multi-way and out of position
- 3-bet All-in
- Fold

Since I normally 3-bet 3.5x-4x when OOP, All-in is the only option for a raise.

Would like to hear others ideas on how this was played, and what other people would have done in this situation.


https://upswingpoker.com/hand/?pokeit=3q1JWahW

Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $500/$1,000 ($125 ante) - 7 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 27/15/2

Bostard (UTG): $3,048.00 (3 bb)
pokerrule19 (MP): $20,696.00 (21 bb)
Nemesis38 (MP+1): $20,355.00 (20 bb)
cyrogenic1 (CO): $14,049.00 (14 bb)
Syltan (BU): $31,612.00 (32 bb)
mAcKz_88 (SB): $15,916.00 (16 bb)
kdawg71 (BB): $8,086.00 (8 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($2,375) Hero (mAcKz_88) is SB with Q Q
1 fold, pokerrule19 (MP) raises to $4,375, Nemesis38 (MP+1) calls $4,375, 2 players fold, mAcKz_88 (SB) 3-bets to $15,791 (all-in), 1 fold, pokerrule19 (MP) 4-bets to $20,571 (all-in), 1 fold

Flop: ($37,832) 8 A 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($37,832) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($37,832) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $37,832 (Rake: $0)

Showdown:
pokerrule19 (MP) mucks A Q (two pair, Aces and Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 34%, Flop: 96%, Turn: 98%, River: 100%)

mAcKz_88 (SB) mucks Q Q (two pair, Queens and Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 66%, Flop: 4%, Turn: 2%, River: 0%)

pokerrule19 (MP) wins $37,832

There was nothing more to do well played
 
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Theoretically the optimal move for increasing stack size. Practically a bad move on ACR.
 
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