$Freeroll NLHE MTT: Shocking Hand

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Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 9-max

Seat 1: SB (738 in chips)
Seat 2: BB(2982 in chips)
Seat 3: UTG(2830 in chips)
Seat 4: UTG+1(2208 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero(UTG+2) (4940 in chips)
Seat 6: MP (7714 in chips)
Seat 7: MP+1(655 in chips)
Seat 8: CO(4797 in chips)
Seat 9: BTN(1360 in chips)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero :10c4: :qc4:
folds, folds, Hero: calls 150, folds, folds, folds, folds, folds, BB: checks

*** FLOP *** :8s4: :ac4: :as4:
BB: checks, Hero: bets 150, BB: calls 150

*** TURN *** :jc4:
BB: checks, Hero: checks

*** RIVER *** :2c4:
BB: bets 450, Hero: raises 4190 to 4640 and is all-in, BB: calls 2232 and is all-in

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows :10c4: :qc4: (a flush, Ace high)
Bb: shows :8c4: :ah4: (a full house, Aces full of Eights)
BB collected 6039 from pot

What do you think, did I missed something here, did I made a mistake somewhere, I did not even think about it he had a full house?? :(
I just meant to call him on the river, but in the last moment I decided to re-raise to all-in !!
 
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Well, i think this is one of those times that poker learning sites mention as one of the reason to "always" raise if you're getting in the action... You let the villain have a free look at the flop and it gave him the nuts right at the start.. all he had to do was slow play you and hope you got something good enough to go all in, which you did...

I would have raised, everyone else had folded and you had his stack covered.. he probably would have folded with that hand and you would have taken the blinds at least. Personally i believe giving the bb a free look its almos always a mistake, you should always raise, and if i dont believe have a strong enough hand to raise... i usually just fold (of course i call sometimes but very very few, mostly if there are more players already in the action)

Oh and i have been in the other end of this hand.. i've been given a free look at the flop with a weak hand and had end up winning a pot i wasnt even supposed to be in.
 
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The BB can have any two cards when you allow them to see the flop for free. If you had raised preflop you could have got him to lay down his unsuited A, instead, he hit a full house.

Also, I don't really understand your all in at the end? What are you trying to achive with this? He is never folding a stronger hand here.
 
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You made three mistakes. Preflop, and flop and river.
First you gave to see the flop villain for free.
Then you for some reason have posted on the flop, although you have nothing, and the flop is dangerous, paired.
Then you put everything, hoping that you will be paid with a weak hand ...
 
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There was no ante on the game A8o is a hand that you can defend on yours BB but not with no ante. if you had raise 2.5bb or so, probable you would have got the blinds.

Another question, is really QTs a good open hand for your position? probable not...

Your all in on the river was a big mistake, every time that you see a paired board you should think about full house.
 
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Great slowplay by BB.. its ok that u bet river but after reraise allin u have EASY fold mate.
 
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The BB can have any two cards when you allow them to see the flop for free. If you had raised preflop you could have got him to lay down his unsuited A, instead, he hit a full house.

Also, I don't really understand your all in at the end? What are you trying to achive with this? He is never folding a stronger hand here.

I already explained what I was trying to do, I was waiting to come out the flush on the river and when it came out I thought that I was stronger than him and tried to get all the chips from him.

From the beginning I thought that he has a three of the kind, but no one would have suspected that he has full house, so you understand why I'm shove all-in on the river !
 
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Limp pre is bad, flop bet is questionable but not terrible, turn check when you get the required equity to double barrel is bad, river shove I just don't get as you're really not getting much value from any worse hands.
 
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I'd be min-raising pre-flop instead of limping though unlikely to change anything.

Stab/c-bet on the flop is fine and I like the check on the turn. You were going to lose some chips on that river - very bad run-out for you, try to hit the king of clubs next time. :D

Make a note that this opponent slowplays big hands on flop/turn out of the blinds and then comes to life on the river. This way you can save some chips next time.

Good luck to you! :D
 
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Thanks to everyone on the advice, but I think that such situations are being happens to everyone, if you agree with me? And then there's no escape from that hand, especially when an opponent disguises the power of own hand, and you also have a strong hand like me here on the river. :)
 
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The flop was AA8...I never bet on it ... too risky because A8 is easy to get in hand (I getting it several times on a game,I don't know why).But anyway ,if the flop is too strong (AA,KK,QQ and another X card) I fold it.The only way I 'll keep going IF I have at least one in my hand .This is just my strategy,anybody may think differently.Maybe I play too carefully.😊
 
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IMO preflop is OR, flop check, bet turn, and against the bet of the villain the shove is fine, because we play this kind of hands to complete the flush and get the maximum value.
 
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