$Freeroll NLHE MTT: Was the river call down too passive

Want to know if the river call down was too passive. I was afraid of a boat or a higher flush at the time given how tight his range was at the time.

PokerStars - 50/100 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SportGames (UTG): 38.72 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 17.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 40)
DeXxXuS (UTG+1): 35.7 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
pro_Kiev (MP): 13.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Jhonaldo_05 (MP+1): 48.77 BB (VPIP: 44.12, PFR: 20.59, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 34)
MBAKKAA (CO): 18.7 BB (VPIP: 13.04, PFR: 2.17, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 46)
darthdimsky (BTN): 28.01 BB
xkirpichx (SB): 39.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
VoKeRo4eK (BB): 28.06 BB (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)

xkirpichx posts SB 0.5 BB, VoKeRo4eK posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) darthdimsky has T♠ Q♠

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, darthdimsky raises to 2.5 BB, fold, VoKeRo4eK calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 9♠ 2♠ 9♦
VoKeRo4eK checks, darthdimsky bets 2.75 BB, VoKeRo4eK calls 2.75 BB

Turn: (11 BB, 2 players) 4♦
VoKeRo4eK checks, darthdimsky checks

River: (11 BB, 2 players) 3♠
VoKeRo4eK bets 4 BB, darthdimsky calls 4 BB

On the river you could safely answer all-in. It is difficult to judge the range of the villain on the basis of only 15 hands. You got your flash and could take more chips.

In cash games I'd consider it as a value bet and sometime I too bet that small to get value out of boats.

But at tournaments, it's very rare specially during middle & late phases. I'd gladly raise or shove to get value but not likely he'd call.

Andrew Popov said:

On the river you could safely answer all-in. It is difficult to judge the range of the villain on the basis of only 15 hands. You got your flash and could take more chips.

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Alucard said:

In cash games I'd consider it as a value bet and sometime I too bet that small to get value out of boats.

But at tournaments, it's very rare specially during middle & late phases. I'd gladly raise or shove to get value but not likely he'd call.

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Yea, I figure this is my biggest leak atm. I'm not getting enough value from solid hands. In this instance he might not have called but I didn't even attempt to 3b him.

Especially when you check the turn, this river should be a tank shove. Your opponent is never folding a 9 or a weaker flush when you play the hand the way you did.

trent32la said:

Especially when you check the turn, this river should be a tank shove. Your opponent is never folding a 9 or a weaker flush when you play the hand the way you did.

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Thanks Trent. What you described is exactly what happened half an hour later and after I posted OP. The above hand was something I was upset about so I decided to hell with it if I got another chance:

PokerStars - 125/250 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 25.58 BB (VPIP: 21.88, PFR: 9.68, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
MP: 8.56 BB (VPIP: 13.16, PFR: 10.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 76)
MP+1: 11.4 BB (VPIP: 8.24, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 86)
MP+2: 18.77 BB (VPIP: 35.45, PFR: 27.78, 3Bet Preflop: 12.90, Hands: 110)
CO: 65.44 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 24.14, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 30)
BTN: 12.32 BB (VPIP: 11.46, PFR: 4.30, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 96)
Hero (SB): 18.7 BB
BB: 12.86 BB (VPIP: 7.27, PFR: 5.77, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
UTG: 12.66 BB (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)

9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has A♠ 7♠

fold, UTG+1 raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB, fold

Flop: (5.9 BB, 2 players) 6♠ J♣ 4♠
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Turn: (9.9 BB, 2 players) J♠
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB, UTG+1 calls 3 BB

River: (21.9 BB, 2 players) Q♥
Hero bets 8.6 BB and is all-in, UTG+1 calls 8.6 BB

Hero shows A♠ 7♠ (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 38%, Turn 80%)
UTG+1 shows A♦ J♥ (Three of a Kind, Jacks)
(Pre 68%, Flop 62%, Turn 20%)
Hero wins 39.11 BB

Shove or fold pre in the hand above with A7s. I'd fold vs this opener. Flatting weak, suited Ax OOP has little value off a 19bb stack, not to mention the reverse implied odds even when you do flop an ace. If you're going to have a flatting range OOP off this stack, which is not reccomended, it should be with nutted hands (KK+) that you are trapping with, and hands that flop equity and can x/shove on a lot of flops with (T9s, 98s, JTs, J9s).

As played, x/shove flop with the nut FD, calling here allows your opponent to blow you off the hand or possibly get to showdown with a hand you can fold out by x/shoving the flop. Shove turn as well, clicking back looks extremely strong here and I don't think you are clicking it back without a jack here.

trent32la said:

Shove or fold pre in the hand above with A7s. I'd fold vs this opener. Flatting weak, suited Ax OOP has little value off a 19bb stack, not to mention the reverse implied odds even when you do flop an ace. If you're going to have a flatting range OOP off this stack, which is not reccomended, it should be with nutted hands (KK+) that you are trapping with, and hands that flop equity and can x/shove on a lot of flops with (T9s, 98s, JTs, J9s).

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The reason I didn't fold was because the BB was sitting out. He had gone uncontested for atleast 3 orbits earlier. I tanked long and hard before I called. I also had a very tight table image when I called, which is why he attempted the min bet with TPTK. It was a gamble. No excuse. If he had raised to 2.5/3bb though I would've insta folded.

trent32la said:

As played, x/shove flop with the nut FD, calling here allows your opponent to blow you off the hand or possibly get to showdown with a hand you can fold out by x/shoving the flop. Shove turn as well, clicking back looks extremely strong here and I don't think you are clicking it back without a jack here.

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Thanks. I'm going to honestly give it some more thought here. The reason I decided to 3b light on the turn was to really commit him to the pot (21.9bb pot after the 3b). Since I checked back the flop I really gave no intention of a flush draw or a pair. By 3b I was hoping to indicate a weaker J or an over pair.