$Freeroll NLHE MTT Rebuy: KQ suited in position

button: Hero 1500 ,

M1: villain 9750, loose aggresive, Played strong hands and folded when he/she didn't hit


M2: villain 18450, loose passive with aggressive tenancies, played quite a few hands but folded under pressure when he/she did hit hard, and played aggressive when they did.


blinds 15/30, played hands with both before with notes.


M1 calls
M2 calls
Hero raises to 90
M1 calls
M2 calls


Pot 315


Flop: , ,


M1 check
M2 check


Hero bets 150


M1 calls
M2 calls


Pot 765


turn


M1 check
M2 check


Hero: bets 385


M1 folds


M2 calls


Pot 1535


River


M2 checks


Hero All in


M2 instant call


will give results after a few replies have been posted.


Regards,
GiGiCat

This looks like a poor hand all together, but I don't mind the 3 barrel bluff on the river if you're going to take this line.

I also like to CBet a lot, but especially when you know, that M2 is loose passive and is just calling through all streets, there is no need to continue on the river, when you just have air. I think, in this case your oponent could hold anything about Ax, connectors and had hit the flop somehow or also was calling with some small/middle pocket pair and got his set. A check on river would have been ok, because you still had enough chips at the beginning of the tourney. It is a hit in the air on the river, because only better hand can call you.

what was your style?
or: what did villain thinks about you?
My guess: just as whiskers77
Looking at the stack difference and table, villain doesn't need much, as villain saw you chasing a flush or straight, with A3, A5

widron2s said:

This looks like a poor hand all together, but I don't mind the 3 barrel bluff on the river if you're going to take this line.

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That was my thinking as well as he was the player he was. seen him fold to less to me and others. Have shown him better hands in the past when he folded to me.


Regards,
GiGiCat

whiskers77 said:

I also like to CBet a lot, but especially when you know, that M2 is loose passive and is just calling through all streets, there is no need to continue on the river, when you just have air. I think, in this case your oponent could hold anything about Ax, connectors and had hit the flop somehow or also was calling with some small/middle pocket pair and got his set. A check on river would have been ok, because you still had enough chips at the beginning of the tourney. It is a hit in the air on the river, because only better hand can call you.

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I didn't put him on pocket pair, or much of anything honestly that's why I 3 barreled him.


Regards,
GiGiCat

Your line was fine, if you had been in a game where players paid to get in, but 2 barreling in a freeroll, questionable.

In a freeroll, players will call you down with as little as 2 over cards, bottom pair no kicker even a baby pair in hand.


When playing freerolls, avoid bluffing unless you have a good read on opponent, most bluffs don't work well in freerolls, even in the micros, bluffs have a hard time getting through.

The way hand was played, I would honestly put villain on pocker 4s or 2s considering the fact that villain tends to fold to aggression, calling against 2 opponents out of position kinda says he has it on the flop, also, if he did hit a set, there is no reason to re-raise on either flop or turn. Reason behind is to try and let M1 call another bet from you on the turn/river. as well as the fact there are no real draws on that board except for maybe 35. All that being said, I don't like your bet on the turn. you picked up a straight and a flush draw, and if you hit you can most likely extract value on the river. Otherwise, if you bet the turn (like you did), and miss on the river, it is so hard to not barrel again on the river, making you inclined to lose all your chips. One more thing, it is a freeroll, your opponent has 10x your stack, he can call you rather light, another reason not to bluff all streets..

As played, I think you need to check back the river and just see where you are. M2 seems to be in check call mode. He has clearly got a piece and bets on the flop and turn are not moving him. I admire the heart to fire the 3rd barrel and if you are going to turn your hand into a bluff this line I think you have to take. I think the problem is you are just not deep enough to make your river shove scare him. When you shoved the river it was for about 1000 if my quick adding was close and he had 18k to start the hand. This is about a pot sized bet and not going to hurt him to bad to call.

Big stack you will not throw on the river,if you have specified it all time call.All in the river it's a bad decision at the start of the tournament.

GiGiCat said:

button: Hero 1500 ,

M1: villain 9750, loose aggresive, Played strong hands and folded when he/she didn't hit


M2: villain 18450, loose passive with aggressive tenancies, played quite a few hands but folded under pressure when he/she did hit hard, and played aggressive when they did.


blinds 15/30, played hands with both before with notes.


M1 calls
M2 calls
Hero raises to 90
M1 calls
M2 calls


Pot 315


Flop: , ,


M1 check
M2 check


Hero bets 150


M1 calls
M2 calls


Pot 765


turn


M1 check
M2 check


Hero: bets 385


M1 folds


M2 calls


Pot 1535


River


M2 checks


Hero All in


M2 instant call


will give results after a few replies have been posted.


Regards,
GiGiCat

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I also kind of like the post-flop-play until turn. River is allways a fold to me because you usually have 0% foldequity in a Freeroll. Especially in the earlyphase.


If 2 before you limp I would allways make it 5x blind. You just give them a to good price to stay in the hand. As a rule of thumb you can say 3x+nx. n being the the number of people limp before you.


Given that you opened 3x the board doesnt hit your range at all. So the only thing you a really repping is a overpair or a set. Given that you sized the way you have both wouldnt make sense to me. You would play AA-TT differently i guess.


Also, as this is a freeroll: Never bluff the fish

Its all about the range

KQs is not a horrible hand to button raise from, but why so small? After the SB and BB post and M1, M2 and Hero calls there are 4-1/2BBs, 135 in the pot. Subtracting Hero's call from the 90 bet the raise is 60 or less than 1/2 pot. I'm surprised the BB didn't call 60 to win 195 and I'd be surprised if M1 and M2 didn't call. What was the point of the Preflop raise? If you wanted to thin the field it need to be twice as big. Something along the lines of 6 BB. If you aren't going to raise bigger than a call is better.

Can't argue with the c-bet. You took the lead and are expected to bet a very small dry flop. The problem is the flop hit M1 and M2's range better than Hero's. Not surprised both called.


On the turn the J again hits M1 and M2's range better than Hero's. This is the point Hero must decide how he plans to play the river. Betting 1/2 pot on the turn leaving 1.3 X pot behind looks like poor planning. If the idea is to get them to fold, Hero needs to bet enough to leave a less than pot size bet for the river, 550 or 600.


If Villain had shoved the turn would Hero fold? If not then bet bigger. If so, then don't bet.


Hero has maybe 4 2s in his range (A2s) so if Villain was calling the rive he is calling the turn.

I have M2 on A2 , A4 or A10 ? , or even 24 suited ?

Why else would he keep calling ?
Results when you post prediction I'm afraid = a loss

GiGiCat said:

button: Hero 1500 ,

M1: villain 9750, loose aggresive, Played strong hands and folded when he/she didn't hit


M2: villain 18450, loose passive with aggressive tenancies, played quite a few hands but folded under pressure when he/she did hit hard, and played aggressive when they did.


blinds 15/30, played hands with both before with notes.


M1 calls
M2 calls
Hero raises to 90
M1 calls
M2 calls


Pot 315


Flop: , ,


M1 check
M2 check


Hero bets 150


M1 calls
M2 calls


Pot 765


turn


M1 check
M2 check


Hero: bets 385


M1 folds


M2 calls


Pot 1535


River


M2 checks


Hero All in


M2 instant call


will give results after a few replies have been posted.


Regards,
GiGiCat

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Think I got enough replies to leave the results:


Villain flipped over....now get this....


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Regards,
GiGiCat

If your bet sizing was different you may have had a chance to get this very sticky opponent off of his hand. On the flop you need to decide the best way to proceed on all future streets.


Pot size on the flop is 315, you have 1410


Dry flop, Tx-4x-2c
No suits, small chance of a straight draw, mostly suited Ax wheel hands
Both players check to you, do you bet? how much?
A: Bet 1/3 pot, 105. Both call, pot is 730, stack is 1305, SPR=1.79
B: Bet 1/3 pot, 105, one caller, pot 525, stack is 1305, SPR=2.49
C: Bet 1/2 pot, 150*, both call, pot is 765, stack is 1260, SPR=1.65
D: Bet 1/2 pot, 150*, one call, pot is 615, stack is 1260, SPR=2.05


*1/2ish pot bet, but we will go with what the HERO bet for sake of argument


In these scenarios, many turn cards result in a shut down, a few good cards to continue to barrel, and a few that directly improve your hand. SPR here leaves you no fold equity on the river
C: all in bet 1260,
slight over bet in my opinion, but could work
D: Bet 1/3 pot, 255, both call, pot 1,530, stack 1,005, SPR=0.65
E: Bet 1/3 pot, 255, one caller, pot 1,275, stack 1,005, SPR=0.79
These situations leave you a 2/3 to 3/4 pot bet for the river, enough fold equity, and a very plausible value betting line

1dkp0k3r said:

If your bet sizing was different you may have had a chance to get this very sticky opponent off of his hand. On the flop you need to decide the best way to proceed on all future streets.


Pot size on the flop is 315, you have 1410


Dry flop, Tx-4x-2c
No suits, small chance of a straight draw, mostly suited Ax wheel hands
Both players check to you, do you bet? how much?
A: Bet 1/3 pot, 105. Both call, pot is 730, stack is 1305, SPR=1.79
B: Bet 1/3 pot, 105, one caller, pot 525, stack is 1305, SPR=2.49
C: Bet 1/2 pot, 150*, both call, pot is 765, stack is 1260, SPR=1.65
D: Bet 1/2 pot, 150*, one call, pot is 615, stack is 1260, SPR=2.05


*1/2ish pot bet, but we will go with what the HERO bet for sake of argument


In these scenarios, many turn cards result in a shut down, a few good cards to continue to barrel, and a few that directly improve your hand.

All SPR are very low, leaving little to no room to maneuver. How do you size a turn bet?

Continuing with how the hand played:
Pot 765, 3 ways
TURN 9c
both players check. GIN CARD! Great card to continue
A: Bet 1/2 pot, 385*, both call, pot is 1,920, stack is 875, SPR=0.46
B: Bet 1/2 pot, 385*, one call, pot is1,535, stack is 875, SPR=0.57​

SPR here leaves you no fold equity on the river
C: all in bet 1260,
slight over bet in my opinion, but could work
D: Bet 1/3 pot, 255, both call, pot 1,530, stack 1,005, SPR=0.65
E: Bet 1/3 pot, 255, one caller, pot 1,275, stack 1,005, SPR=0.79
These situations leave you a 2/3 to 3/4 pot bet for the river, enough fold equity, and a very plausible value betting line

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Very Nice! Good work and information.


Regards,
GiGiCat