$Freeroll NLHE MTT: Nittiest Fold Ever?

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888 Poker - 25/50 Ante 5 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 159.62 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, hands: 5)
BB: 40.06 BB (VPIP: 48.00, PFR: 4.17, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 25)
UTG: 1.36 BB (VPIP: 64.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 37.50, Hands: 25)
Hero (UTG+1): 39.6 BB
MP: 57.48 BB (VPIP: 12.80, PFR: 7.50, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 165)
MP+1: 110.66 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
CO: 117.88 BB (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
BTN: 35.22 BB (VPIP: 10.95, PFR: 3.03, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 137)

8 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has 6:heart: A:heart:

UTG raises to 1.26 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 1.26 BB, MP calls 1.26 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 0.76 BB, BB calls 0.26 BB

Flop: (7.1 BB, 5 players) 6:spade: Q:club: T:diamond:
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: (7.1 BB, 5 players) T:club:
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP checks

River: (7.1 BB, 5 players) 6:diamond:
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 2 BB, fold, SB calls 2 BB, BB raises to 7.54 BB, fold, fold

BB shows 3:club: A:club: (Two Pair, Tens and Sixes)
(Pre 68%, Flop 80%, Turn 95%)
UTG shows 5:spade: 3:spade: (Two Pair, Tens and Sixes)
(Pre 32%, Flop 20%, Turn 5%)
BB wins 7.1 BB
BB wins 6 BB

I have to admit that was a nice play from the villain. I had no stats for him on the river ,he had never c/r me before in any street. That sizing though! What would you do if you were in my shoes?
 
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Lol. It is a very bad bad bad fold! Only on NL100+ i think it will be good fold.
 
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Why were you frightened by such a weak raise? You could pay, just to make sure it's not a bluff. You have a full house, although the youngest of the possible.

In the absence of bets on the streets, the villain simply put in an ace - kicker on a paired board. :D
 
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Why were you frightened by such a weak raise? You could pay, just to make sure it's not a bluff. You have a full house, although the youngest of the possible.

In the absence of bets on the streets, the villain simply put in an ace - kicker on a paired board. :D

This sizing made me think that he made it only for value. In my limited experience such plays 80% of the times is for value :p . I would had called for sure if I was the last player to act but I had also one more opponent behind haha.
 
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Well i don't think it was nitties fold ever, if you ask me. Considering that your opponent has so high VPIP and so low PFR, he is probably has more call station character. However without knowing about his river bluff abilities it's quite hard to say. There are some people, who bluff river like never. And most likely that is passive players and your current opponent could be one of. So i would rather fold it too. And i disagree with
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at that point, who said it's a weak raise. It's 2/3 pot and it's pretty much to catch eventual bluff from a passive player. I think it was okay to fold on river. Ten is also pretty much often in the range of such player too and the way how he played hand.
 
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nittiest fold

I would have bet on the turn after all the checks.
 
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Why are you betting the river? Is it a bluff or for value? Calling is a lot easier if it's not a 3bet (depending on the bet sizing of course).
 
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Why are you betting the river? Is it a bluff or for value? Calling is a lot easier if it's not a 3bet (depending on the bet sizing of course).

My initial thought was for value but I lost those chips too :p
 
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First, I think open calling UTG's all in was a bad play. UTG's all in is essentially a limp. I believe you should have 3bet this big to isolate if you you want to play this hand or fold it. Second, I think your river bet was too small. However, if you had bet 4-5bb on the river and got raised 4x I think it would have been a good fold. Third, this is an easy check back on the river, you close the action have a good hand, and are getting a decent amount of chips for little risk.
 
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Wauu, why you fold buddy? You need call minimum 4BB on the river.
 
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Been said but yeah, your river bet is so small it begs to be raised and the pre-flop move should be to raise if playing. The raise size from V on the river I don't think is that crazy though, 2.5x + 2BB for the caller, my bluffs and my value bets would be the same.

The suspicious thing to me is BB checking the turn, surely with their aggressive style they wouldn't check there with a T or a 6. I think they suddenly realised on the river there was an opportunity that his ace high kicker was either splitting or they could get everyone to fold.

For me was enough suspicion to call 5bb more from this player type.
 
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Ever heard of something called, PAY OFF WIZARDS? That's the spot right there. What were you putting him on, when he played that way? If he has a T, so be it. You have to pay it off or else fold pre-flop, if you don't want to play post-flop.
 
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Ever heard of something called, PAY OFF WIZARDS? That's the spot right there. What were you putting him on, when he played that way? If he has a T, so be it. You have to pay it off or else fold pre-flop, if you don't want to play post-flop.

Never heard of that quote , thanks for sharing and for commenting as well. The verdict here is that I followed a bad line from the beginning till the end.Thanks to those comments my game will improve sooner or later.
 
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