$Freeroll NLHE MTT: JJ call all-in or fold?

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PokerStars - $0+$0|125/250 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 63.43 BB (VPIP: 41.18, PFR: 20.59, 3Bet Preflop: 21.43, hands: 34)
MP+1: 11.02 BB (VPIP: 26.42, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)
Hero (CO): 28.34 BB
BTN: 4.25 BB (VPIP: 36.84, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
SB: 6.48 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BB: 15.5 BB (VPIP: 43.48, PFR: 26.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
UTG: 57.23 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
UTG+1: 12.46 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)

8 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has J:diamond: J:heart:

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, MP calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.3 BB, 2 players) 5:diamond: 9:spade: 4:heart:
MP checks, Hero bets 4.65 BB, MP raises to 60.33 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 20.59 BB and is all-in

This distribution was played today in the freeroll CardsChat. I would like to know the opinion how would you do in this situation? The results will be opened later after the discussion.
 
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It's tough to gauge because it is a freeroll but I would have raised more preflop, especially against the big stack.
 
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Snap call:D
 
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terryk said:
Snap call:D
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You kind of have to.

He could do this with alot of top pairs gutshots and over cards. Big stack looks hyper aggro might enjoy being aggressive and stats indicate a very high likely hood he's been hot rolling the dice.
 
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Against a player this loose, you have to call. He can very well be overplaying 9x here and I wouldn't expect him to x/shove sets on this flop.
 
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I think you need to bet more pre, instead of betting 3x I would of bet 5x... Your normal 3x + 1 bb per limper.

I believe you were right to call as he seems pretty loose, I don't believe he has a set on that flop as I believed he would of x/c instead of x/shoved.
 
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EvertonGirl said:
I think you need to bet more pre, instead of betting 3x I would of bet 5x... Your normal 3x + 1 bb per limper.

I believe you were right to call as he seems pretty loose, I don't believe he has a set on that flop as I believed he would of x/c instead of x/shoved.
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Did not notice this in the HH, but I agree. Would be making it 4.5x minimum here and 5x if the players are call happy.
 
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Thank all. I agree with the above opinions, I had to bet a lot on pre-flop. My opponent played aggressively before, all in with 77 and 44 pre-flop. If I bet the pot on the flop, then maybe my opponent did not stop. I think the aggressors stop more often if they see big bets immediately
 
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Even after the turn, my chances are great. I played very tightly, so the considerate player could not assume that I was bluffing
 
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MP: 63.43 BB (VPIP: 41.18, PFR: 20.59, 3Bet Preflop: 21.43, Hands: 34)
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Such statistics say that we are an aggressive player inclined to bluff. A pair of nines and a straight draw, and he is ready to bet 60 BB.
You can only hope that there will not be seven or nine on the river ... :D
 
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The way I try to figure this stuff out is to put myself in the Villain seat and figure out why he would do what he did. He saw you raise preflop with a standard raise. He calls out of position and you raise. He is aggressive and not comfortable playing such a passive role in the hand. Your raise amount indicates a standard C-Bet which probably means your hand did not improve with the flop. If you have a high fold to 3-Bet percentage he is most definitely going to raise you with a bluff. Going all in is an extreme bluff in this case but, hey it's a free-roll. I personally don't think he connected on the flop and this is a semi or total bluff. He wants to push you out of the pot. That is a lot of speculation but, based on sound reasoning. So what do you do?

I would say call because most aggressive players would not check if they have a set here so your probably ahead. This is simply a +EV call all the way.
 
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Easy call, only hands that beat you that your opponent might play this way are sets.
 
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jsrader77014 said:
The way I try to figure this stuff out is to put myself in the Villain seat and figure out why he would do what he did. He saw you raise preflop with a standard raise. He calls out of position and you raise. He is aggressive and not comfortable playing such a passive role in the hand. Your raise amount indicates a standard C-Bet which probably means your hand did not improve with the flop. If you have a high fold to 3-Bet percentage he is most definitely going to raise you with a bluff. Going all in is an extreme bluff in this case but, hey it's a free-roll. I personally don't think he connected on the flop and this is a semi or total bluff. He wants to push you out of the pot. That is a lot of speculation but, based on sound reasoning. So what do you do?

I would say call because most aggressive players would not check if they have a set here so your probably ahead. This is simply a +EV call all the way.
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After the flop, I put half the pot - 4.65 BB, maybe I should have put a higher bet, maybe my opponent did not go all-in. As I did in the description there, I put all-in
 
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If you ignore this distribution, then such hands are called big pairs (QQ, JJ, TT), they play well in any situation, as long as A or K appears on the table, and a dilemma arises. And in this situation, the main point is your position and the degree of aggression of the opponent. Will your opponent bluff or not. I often get into this situation and understand what kind of hand the opponent has is very difficult.
 
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Considering that it's a freeroll, you have to snap call it.
 
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