$Freeroll NLHE MTT: ITM Pocket Aces in SB

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Hold'em No Limit - 750/1,500 (150 ante) - 8 players

UTG: 11,215.00 (7 bb)
UTG+1: 29,550.00 (20 bb)
MP: 55,065.00 (37 bb)
MP+1: 12,510.00 (8 bb)
CO: 56,091.00 (37 bb)
BU: 21,835.00 (15 bb)
SB (Hero): 17,786.00 (12 bb)
BB: 28,936.00 (19 bb)

Pre-Flop: (3,450) Hero is SB with A A
4 players fold, CO raises to 6,450, 1 fold.

ITM, 50 players left.

1. Your move?

Raise all-in:
Hero 3-bets to 17,636 (all-in), BB calls 16,136, CO calls 11,186.

2. Is shoving a mistake?

Call:
Hero calls 6,450, BB 3-bets to 27,286, CO calls 20,836.

3. Is calling a mistake?

4. Your move?

Fold:
5. Your thoughts?
 
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would shove, let it take care of itself..

first, you're ITM, congrats on that.
Second, you're playing with house money.
third, probabilities with AA are on your side, I would have shoved.
Fourth, I had similar scenario today, close to ITM, got AA, shoved.
Fifth, my AA lost when QQ102 was the final board. Enemy had a Q, for QQQ, top my AA.
Sixth, probabilities aren't the same as live cards.
Lastly, there is no right answer with AA, statistically it is great, but a lot of players lose with AA,
 
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Shoving preflop is never a mistake here and that would have been exactly what I would have done there. You could call but if he has something like pocket 8,s that would call the shove could fold with over cards on the flop and you lose the chance to win those chips.

So you call and the BB shoves and the raiser calls. I call here every time. You have aces and are ahead of anything they have unless they have the same hand as you. I personally think the biggest mistake you could make with any of the options would be to fold your pocket aces.
 
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Hold'em No Limit - 750/1,500 (150 ante) - 8 players

UTG: 11,215.00 (7 bb)
UTG+1: 29,550.00 (20 bb)
MP: 55,065.00 (37 bb)
MP+1: 12,510.00 (8 bb)
CO: 56,091.00 (37 bb)
BU: 21,835.00 (15 bb)
SB (Hero): 17,786.00 (12 bb)
BB: 28,936.00 (19 bb)

Pre-Flop: (3,450) Hero is SB with A A
4 players fold, CO raises to 6,450, 1 fold.

ITM, 50 players left.

1. Your move?

Raise all-in:
Hero 3-bets to 17,636 (all-in), BB calls 16,136, CO calls 11,186.

2. Is shoving a mistake?

Call:
Hero calls 6,450, BB 3-bets to 27,286, CO calls 20,836.

3. Is calling a mistake?

4. Your move?

Fold:
5. Your thoughts?


In this situation considering its a tournament I would take a long time to only call. Regardless of the flop I would again use my time meter to make my opponent think I am in a bad spot and check. My opponent pretty much all the time would raise me all in where I would snap call. Win or lose I feel this is the most strategic way to play this hand for maximum profit. However in cash game I would take my time again preflop but I would come over the top and go all in.
 
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Hero only has 12bb left. No question that this is a shove all-in! ~80% of the time your Aces will hold on for the win. You can't make the final table (and get the REAL pay jump) without accumulating some more chips. GO FOR IT! :)
 
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This is the exact thing I'm hoping for in the SB with a chip stack such as yours. I certainly want someone raising an amount that makes it almost impossible to fold when I shove. I'm excited to get it all in and I'm hoping I hold for a double up.

A call isn't terrible, but it certainly increases the variance, as it allows the BB to enter the pot. I still love my odds in a 3-way pot. Either way, I'm shoving no matter the flop once it hits.
 
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This is almost exactly the perfect example of when to shove preflop. Any book you read or video you watch on the basics of NLHE would tell you to go all in there. With a stack of 12 BBs there's not much else to do, unless you're trying to survive a little longer to get the next pay jump. But even then I think shoving is the way to go, because you're probably gonna double up and survive a lot longer.
 
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Cold day in hell when I don't shove AA with 12BB! ;)
 
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Given the pot size and knowing that CO is priced in, I jam and play for a ~27 BB pot.

Not hating it if BB calls/jams behind.
 
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With only 12BB, I think it is clearly a shove here because there is no need for us to slow play since scare cards may come on the flop; and we might not get the action on later street.
 
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Just echoing everyone else here, but it's worth saying another way: shoving is almost always the best play with aces, because we'd never be flatting here with a bunch of weaker holdings. I'm not a huge proponent of balance, but it'd be somewhat disastrous to ONLY flat aces/kings here or even just aces, and be shoving the rest of our continuing range.

Just shove and feel great about it, knowing that we have a lot of other stuff we'd be jamming here, so we should get called pretty often.
 
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Hold'em No Limit - 750/1,500 (150 ante) - 8 players

UTG: 11,215.00 (7 bb)
UTG+1: 29,550.00 (20 bb)
MP: 55,065.00 (37 bb)
MP+1: 12,510.00 (8 bb)
CO: 56,091.00 (37 bb)
BU: 21,835.00 (15 bb)
SB (Hero): 17,786.00 (12 bb)
BB: 28,936.00 (19 bb)

Pre-Flop: (3,450) Hero is SB with A A
4 players fold, CO raises to 6,450, 1 fold.

ITM, 50 players left.

1. Your move?

Raise all-in:
Hero 3-bets to 17,636 (all-in), BB calls 16,136, CO calls 11,186.

2. Is shoving a mistake?

Call:
Hero calls 6,450, BB 3-bets to 27,286, CO calls 20,836.

3. Is calling a mistake?

4. Your move?

Fold:
5. Your thoughts?


1. 3bet shove all-in. The best option as we only have 12BB.

2. Call to try to induce BB to shove and then get 3 way action. Don't get greedy AA plays better heads up than multi-way. Plus if BB folds you give the original raiser a free look at the flop.

3. Fold. We are never folding AA here. Ever.
 
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Preflop with 12 BB, ITM and AA? Only way to go is AllIn :)
Or you dont play any other hand more and wait that someone get busted to ladder up. But makes no sense in a freeroll in my opinion.
 
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Wouldn't you shove preflop here both because you're short stacked with basically the best preflop hand and because you want to avoid what you say BB would do in the case that Hero just calls? You want fewer people in the pot to reduce your chances of getting beaten after the flop, turn and river right?
 
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I know majority is saying to shove with AA. Consider first who you are playing against. You are going to get called up by at least 2 other players at that point. If 3 call, you can expect to get cracked. Just hope whoever cracks your aces has a smaller stack than you.

I've been in this exact situation many times and more often than not I have ended my tournament with this shove. It is the way of the freerolls.
 
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