$Freeroll NLHE MTT: Bad Beat AJ x AA

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Ouch that's a river card I suppose.

If it didn't happen occasionally people would try harder to play well and then where would we all be?

Better luck to you! :D
 
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Played it great, calling the flop, all very nice.
 
Nathan Smith

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No better way to play this hand - just a bad beat
 
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Ouch... I would have probably played it a little different by check raising on the flop. Kings would have nailed you as well. After all AA won from AJs so it's not that unfair in the end.
 
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I would prefer to 3 bet this hand pre flop. You have a strong hand, have an Ace blocker and it looks like a squeeze play. I think 3 betting pre flop is the best play here.


And please, do not reply that the original raiser would have went all in, we would have to call and still lose. STOP BEING RESULTS ORIENTED, start playing better
 
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I would prefer to 3 bet this hand pre flop. You have a strong hand, have an Ace blocker and it looks like a squeeze play. I think 3 betting pre flop is the best play here.


And please, do not reply that the original raiser would have went all in, we would have to call and still lose. STOP BEING RESULTS ORIENTED, start playing better
I agree. A 6x open raise is a lot and should make you suspicious. Depending on if you have a read on villain, a 3-bet even on the flop with the plan to fold to an all in could have saved your stack. But maybe I'm playing too much PLO to think this way.
 
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Pre-flop call OOP is wrong and not profitable, even worse because it's multi-way with a villain stack that doesn't give us any implied odds whatsoever. We have to be 3-betting or folding this hand pre-flop, I lean heavily towards folding just because this hand is not worth that much honestly.

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The 6x open is interesting, I don't know what that means - so, if you have a reason to believe it's weakness, than 3-betting is a consideration - but the stack sizes are also a problem. Any real 3-bet is going commit too large a portion of your stack, even though both villains are effective. You're going to have to go to 700-ish, and if called by even 1 villain, that'll give you a pot size bet remaining. SPR of 1.0, or less if both call, OOP, is not what we're looking for with these holdings. The only 3-bet line that is credible here is a 3-bet shove - in which case you only get called by a better hand.

I think this is clear fold pre-flop and avoid this situation entirely.
 
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I would fold pre, but as played it’s just a cooler. Can’t really blame villain, just curse the poker gods and move on.
 
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Pre-flop call OOP is wrong and not profitable, even worse because it's multi-way with a villain stack that doesn't give us any implied odds whatsoever. We have to be 3-betting or folding this hand pre-flop, I lean heavily towards folding just because this hand is not worth that much honestly.

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The 6x open is interesting, I don't know what that means - so, if you have a reason to believe it's weakness, than 3-betting is a consideration - but the stack sizes are also a problem. Any real 3-bet is going commit too large a portion of your stack, even though both villains are effective. You're going to have to go to 700-ish, and if called by even 1 villain, that'll give you a pot size bet remaining. SPR of 1.0, or less if both call, OOP, is not what we're looking for with these holdings. The only 3-bet line that is credible here is a 3-bet shove - in which case you only get called by a better hand.

I think this is clear fold pre-flop and avoid this situation entirely.

I like your analysis so much and the best part is that is correct totally correct math wise(I made some calculations). I have to improve my math skills at spots like this :p .They are key spots for the rest of the tournament by gathering dead money.

AJs OOP is clear fold pre but I have to admit that when I first watched that boom player I told myself that I can just call and see a cheap flop!But ok seems like in the longterm is a -ev play.

Hope you are a regular because unfortunately a 3bet OOP won't made any difference in a freeroll.
 
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Without more info about the players I think folding pre flop is most probably the right play.
 
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I would either call (huge implied odds are there) or 3bet jamming preflop (depends on dynamics) but folding is out of question for me. imo
 
Miguel Chacon

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I believe it was the right call I woul never Fold in that situation it was good you just were on the negative site of the variance that happens all the time in poker tournaments is hard to take first place without bad beating some players like that ... Good call!
 
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