$Freeroll NLHE MTT: AA turn into FH on river, bet/check?

K

kozong

Legend
Bronze Level
Joined
Jul 7, 2013
Total posts
1,442
Awards
8
Chips
2
PokerStars - $0+$0|80/160 Ante 15 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 23.19 BB (VPIP: 23.29, PFR: 15.07, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, hands: 73)
MP: 8.97 BB (VPIP: 14.04, PFR: 7.02, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 57)
MP+1: 19.03 BB (VPIP: 18.97, PFR: 6.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 58)
CO: 17.38 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 6.98, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 44)
BTN: 39.41 BB (VPIP: 5.78, PFR: 3.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 176)
Hero (SB): 24.44 BB
BB: 23.13 BB (VPIP: 19.30, PFR: 8.77, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 58)
UTG: 21.22 BB (VPIP: 23.61, PFR: 23.61, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 72)

8 players post ante of 0.09 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.25 BB) Hero has A<font color='black'>♣</font> A<font color='black'>♠</font>

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.75 BB, 2 players) 8<font color='red'>♦</font> A<font color='red'>♦</font> 2<font color='red'>♦</font>
Hero bets 2.5 BB, BB calls 2.5 BB

Turn: (10.75 BB, 2 players) 5<font color='red'>♦</font>
Hero checks, BB bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

River: (18.75 BB, 2 players) 8<font color='red'>♥</font>
Hero checks, BB bets 6 BB, Hero raises to 15.34 BB and is all-in, BB calls 8.03 BB and is all-in

am i losing value by checking?
 
T

trent32la

Legend
Bronze Level
Joined
Jun 12, 2013
Total posts
2,852
Awards
1
Chips
0
Always checking the river after check/calling the turn. By leading this river, we fold out all potential bluffs from our opponent and it's unlikely he calls without a full house or nut flush, which he will bet/call on the river anyway.
 
C

ChrisMurray

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 7, 2016
Total posts
82
Chips
0
Pre-flop: Pre-flop is standard. BB can defend pretty wide here.


Flop: We make top set, but we want to play this fast, because a diamond really hurts our hand. I like betting bigger on the flop, to charge single diamonds more. Maybe 3-5BB. When he calls, we need to narrow his range. IT's very difficult for him to have Ax, because there's only one left in the deck and I think he raises them pre-flop quite often. So let's take that out of his range. He probly raises a strong flush draw, so I wouldn't expect to see Kdxd or Qdxd very often. He raises sets on the flop. So, by process of elimination I think he has mainly 8x, but a fair chunk of weaker flush draws as well. There's a small (but not insignificant) chance he flopped the flush as well. He would likely just call with that.


Turn: Obviously an awful card for our hand. We have to check. IT does look like we hate the flush card coming though, so there's a decent chance he bluffs at it with an 8x here, to try and get us off any hard worse than a flush. If we don't think he's bluffing, we're getting nowhere near the implied odds to make the call. It is very small for a bluff, which is a bit concerning, but I think we have to call here, seeing as we can fill up.


River: Great card. We should go for the C/R here. He's obviously got a decent flush and wants to get value when he bets, so let's jam.
 
T

trent32la

Legend
Bronze Level
Joined
Jun 12, 2013
Total posts
2,852
Awards
1
Chips
0
He probly raises a strong flush draw, so I wouldn't expect to see Kdxd or Qdxd very often.
I don't think our opponent ever re-raises a Kd or Qd on an ace high flop here. You get nothing better to fold against a range that is ace heavy. I would never rule out a K/Q high flush here.
 
C

ChrisMurray

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 7, 2016
Total posts
82
Chips
0
I don't think our opponent ever re-raises a Kd or Qd on an ace high flop here. You get nothing better to fold against a range that is ace heavy. I would never rule out a K/Q high flush here.

You could be right. We'll leave some in then.
 
K

kozong

Legend
Bronze Level
Joined
Jul 7, 2013
Total posts
1,442
Awards
8
Chips
2
on the flop im guessing smaller sets (but he might minraise), small flush, flush draw, or slowplayed K high flush

on turn im pretty sure its a flush (he want to keep us in the pot by small value bet)

on river if i bet 1/2pot - small/Khigh flush might just call, if i jam he might fold, n i agree w/ trent

By leading this river, we fold out all potential bluffs from our opponent and it's unlikely he calls without a full house or nut flush, which he will bet/call on the river anyway.

so i decide to risk it n go for c/r
 
Top