Fold AKs (bubble)

PokerNuts01 · Mar 29, 2017

Please, What do you think about this fold.. bubble fight 5 min ago.. Hot $5,50
PokerStars - 800/1600 Ante 200 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 16.6 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, hands: 19)
MP+2: 19.7 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 12.20, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)
CO: 13.76 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 8.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)
BTN: 19.92 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (SB): 25.5 BB
BB: 17.39 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 15.56, 3Bet Preflop: 13.04, Hands: 45)
UTG: 13.41 BB (VPIP: 17.78, PFR: 16.28, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 45)
UTG+1: 5.2 BB
MP: 26.01 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)

9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.63 BB) Hero has A♦ K♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 raises to 2.3 BB, CO raises to 13.64 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold

CO wins 7.23 BB

Kruel7y · Mar 29, 2017

PokerNuts01 said:
Please, What do you think about this fold.. bubble fight 5 min ago.. Hot $5,50
PokerStars - 800/1600 Ante 200 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 16.6 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 19)
MP+2: 19.7 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 12.20, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)
CO: 13.76 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 8.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)
BTN: 19.92 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (SB): 25.5 BB
BB: 17.39 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 15.56, 3Bet Preflop: 13.04, Hands: 45)
UTG: 13.41 BB (VPIP: 17.78, PFR: 16.28, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 45)
UTG+1: 5.2 BB
MP: 26.01 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)

9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.63 BB) Hero has A♦ K♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 raises to 2.3 BB, CO raises to 13.64 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold

CO wins 7.23 BB

I'll raise. suited AK is dealed once in while. anyway I'll be raised

PokerNuts01 · Mar 29, 2017

Kruel7y said:
I'll raise. suited AK is dealed once in while. anyway I'll be raised

I can not raise, in front of me is raise and shove m8.. only call or fold.

ninoverm · Mar 29, 2017

Snap reshove.

Kruel7y · Mar 29, 2017

PokerNuts01 said:
I can not raise, in front of me is raise and shove m8.. only call or fold.

You should find luck.i was lost many chips with AA, KK but AK suited is usually I win.but its just works or got luck for me. Our style is different here.

redmast · Mar 29, 2017

I think that you folded correctly. In the CO , for sure, the minimum was AA, in the last resort KK.

ninoverm · Mar 29, 2017

redmast said:
I think that you folded correctly. In the CO , for sure, the minimum was AA, in the last resort KK.

Someone putting chips in a pot doesn't mean they have aces or kings.

Kruel7y · Mar 29, 2017

ninoverm said:
Someone putting chips in a pot doesn't mean they have aces or kings.

right about that.

edcwy · Mar 29, 2017

It's a fold, Villain has a VPIP of 11, and MP+2, a VPIP of 20. At best, you're in a race. Their's a reasonable chance you've been counterfeited by one or the other. Poker Stove probably has only AA - JJ, calling in that spot.

bumerangue · Mar 29, 2017

I would shove, you can be a bubble, but if you want to win, gotta take some risks and AKs, in my opinion, is strong enough at this stage to a 3 way pot

Matanzima · Mar 29, 2017

I went through a situation similar to yours in the big 11 last week.

In my case I folded a K / K, by the notes of a villain who called on UTG's all in call, I was in BB.

In your case, by the amounts involved and your situation at hand, I would consider the call.

Pbland · Mar 29, 2017

On the bubble with 17BBs, I'd fold. Most likely you're in a coin-flip with an outside chance of being way behind. A little further from the bubble and it would be easier to call.

PokerNuts01 · Mar 29, 2017

Pbland said:
On the bubble with 17BBs, I'd fold. Most likely you're in a coin-flip with an outside chance of being way behind. A little further from the bubble and it would be easier to call.

Agree 100%, next hand i got QQ and I doubled up

John Bor · Mar 29, 2017

The situation is quite complicated
but the likelihood that they have a strong hand is very small
But do not be so risk

Dwarf · Mar 29, 2017

Easy fold, 11% VPIP 0 3B in 45 hands turns into a 3b shove all in AND on the bubble.

Fold. You are tables chip leader anyways. Why risk a coin flip, or worse against 2 ppl in a 3 way with AK

This is villains First POSSIBLE attempted re-steal. Note it and watch for more

SuzdalDEcor · Mar 30, 2017

whaaaaat? Fold? xD Its a very bad game. If you just wanna ITM press to button "Sit out" and go away. Why you play? Or may be you just happy to press to button "fold" with all hands? 45 hands it is nothing.

ninoverm · Mar 30, 2017

I'm getting so tired of this thread lol. It's a clear reshove. The CO shoved for 13 blinds. Even AJs I would reshove here. The only two hands you're significantly behind against are AA and KK, both of which you block. If you're not prepared to go into a coin flip in a tournament, especially a turbo tournament, you will blind out before you know it. If you wanna win AKs is an easy reshove here. Villain could easily have AQ, AJ, AT, KQ, KJ... Why would you let that opportunity go?

jgreenman18 · Mar 30, 2017

Prob just rejam this if hes raising 11 percent of hands i play to win all tourney tho if you just want to climb pay ladder fold. If this guy were like vpip 5 pfr 3 I could see the fold idk think we're good more then we're not

trent32la · Mar 30, 2017

This is a clear reshove with AKs. The BU is also sitting out. So the HJ is the CO and the CO is the BU.

A better question would be what to do with AQ here.

smerald · Mar 31, 2017

Man, people are all over the place in this thread, and understandably so AK is pretty hard to lay down. I think I've both folded and called before when I have been in similar situations.

I like the fold here you are the chip leader at the table, why risk so much of your stack for a coin flip especially with more players to act. Preserve your lead and live to fight another hand. And continue to size up your stack by stealing the blinds

ninoverm · Mar 31, 2017

smerald said:
I like the fold here you are the chip leader at the table, why risk so much of your stack for a coin flip especially with more players to act.

Because the shove is for 13 bloody blinds. And you've got AK. You could easily get in 30+ blinds with AK. I guess that drops down to about 25 if you'r eon the bubble, but still, jeez, 13 blinds. AK. You should be jumping from happiness.

Also, you're not necessarily in a coin flip, your opponent could easily have AQ, KQ, AJ... That combined with the fact you've got 50% if you're up against a lower pocket pair AND you've got money invested already makes it the most clear shove in the world.

smerald said:
Preserve your lead and live to fight another hand.

What kinda hand are you gonna fight with if you're folding AKs?

smerald · Mar 31, 2017

ninoverm said:
Because the shove is for 13 bloody blinds. And you've got AK. You could easily get in 30+ blinds with AK. I guess that drops down to about 25 if you'r eon the bubble, but still, jeez, 13 blinds. AK. You should be jumping from happiness.

Also, you're not necessarily in a coin flip, your opponent could easily have AQ, KQ, AJ... That combined with the fact you've got 50% if you're up against a lower pocket pair AND you've got money invested already makes it the most clear shove in the world.

What kinda hand are you gonna fight with if you're folding AKs?

13 BB is over half of Hero's chip stack and losing the hand puts him as the low stack in risk of being bubbled out. Personally I like playing more low risk during bubble and not calling as many all-ins but focusing on stealing blinds and having a wider range in doing so with this type of stack.

Yes not necessarily in a coin flip but it was a 3-bet all in so his range is more likely that of AK, AQ or pocket pair than not. The money invested was 1BB. His pot odds were not overwhelming.

You're folding AK cause of the situation not cause it's a bad hand that you shouldn't fight with.

ninoverm · Mar 31, 2017

smerald said:
13 BB is over half of Hero's chip stack and losing the hand puts him as the low stack in risk of being bubbled out. Personally I like playing more low risk during bubble and not calling as many all-ins but focusing on stealing blinds and having a wider range in doing so with this type of stack.

Yes not necessarily in a coin flip but it was a 3-bet all in so his range is more likely that of AK, AQ or pocket pair than not. The money invested was 1BB. His pot odds were not overwhelming.

You're folding AK cause of the situation not cause it's a bad hand that you shouldn't fight with.

I couldn't care less about bubbling out, you're there to win the tournament, not to mincash.

Fratchen · Mar 31, 2017

AKs is to strong to fold. I would reshove.
What have you done?

Gabinho12345 · Mar 31, 2017

Easy reshove with AKs and you also have more chips than everyone else in this hand making your decision even easier.

Fold AKs (bubble)

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