My first tournament cards 25 + requirements

fundiver199 said:

You dont have to bet so large, and it is also an option to check back the turn, if the opponent is a calling station. Which he probably is, since he limped into the pot and then called a 3-bet out of position.

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PosFlopALLIN said:

my first tournament i'm all happy thinking now it will be good to play with stronger players who know the game ... hahahahaha. I was wondering if I played this hand wrong? disappointing ...


PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - 10/20 - 9 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

bluffzone68 (UTG): 3,030 (152 bb)
Minsk Pavel (UTG+1): 3,000 (150 bb)
chunchuno (MP): 3,000 (150 bb)
Picur5668 (MP+1): 3,175 (159 bb)
yosif (LP): 2,815 (141 bb)
PosFlopALLIN (CO): 2,950 (148 bb)
Dejange (BU): 2,970 (149 bb)
StateDeParis (SB): 3,060 (153 bb)
biglier666 (BB): 3,000 (150 bb)

Pre-Flop: (30) Hero (PosFlopALLIN) is CO with K♥ A♥
3 players fold, Picur5668 (MP+1) calls 20, yosif (LP) raises to 40, PosFlopALLIN (CO) 3-bets to 180, 3 players fold, Picur5668 (MP+1) calls 160, yosif (LP) calls 140

Flop: (570) 7♥ 6♠ 4♥ (3 players)
Picur5668 (MP+1) bets 60, yosif (LP) folds, PosFlopALLIN (CO) raises to 840, Picur5668 (MP+1) calls 780

Turn: (2,250) 9♣ (2 players)
Picur5668 (MP+1) checks, PosFlopALLIN (CO) bets 1,930 (all-in), Picur5668 (MP+1) calls 1,930

River: (6,110) K♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 6,110

Showdown:
PosFlopALLIN (CO) shows K♥ A♥ (a pair of Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 76%, Flop: 47%, Turn: 27%, River: 0%)

Picur5668 (MP+1) shows K♠ 7♣ (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 24%, Flop: 53%, Turn: 73%, River: 100%)

Picur5668 (MP+1) wins 6,110

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eetenor said:

Thank U 4 Posting.

Congrats on playing your first with us and I hope you enjoy playing more and keep posting so we all can grow together.

I am watching the replayer one street at a time.

So I paused after your preflop raise.

So did you put the min raiser on a range of hands?
If not, then it is good practice to do that now. You can share it or just do it for yourself.

When you raise what do you expect all the other live players to do?

What is your plan if the min raiser 4 bets?

What is your plan post flop if you get multiple calls?

I will now watch more.

Limper calls- MinR calls.

I pause the replay.

What range do they give you?

What range do you give the limper?

Would the over call change the MinR's range?

What flop do you want to see?
What flop do you not want to see?

Will these players fold second pair hands on the flop if you Cbet bluff based on what your range should be?
For instance J 8 4 rainbow will 87 fold flop? What about 22 etc?

Now for the flop

7h6s4h

I pause the replay



Your first thought should be what?

It could be what part of my villains' range did this hit?
How often would they have that range in this spot?

This is another great opportunity to review Vs' possible ranges

So now you can work on your hands equity vs Vs' ranges.

EG
V has a set
V's equity is 73%

V has 9s8s
V's equity is 30%

What is V's equity if they have 9s9h?

Is that hand in your Vs' ranges?

If checked to what is your best action?

What if someone leads into you?

What range would lead?



Restart replay

Limper leads min. MinR folds.

I pause replay.
So you thought you would be playing vs skilled players. If you are what would a skilled player be leading min with after having open limped and then called your 3 bet, with a player live left to act behind them?


What would a less skilled player be hoping for by leading in this pot?
With less skilled players we cannot just assume one thing.
A less skilled player might think they should lead sets and straights as well as 87 or 97 for this sizing. Even Jh10h might try to slow us down by betting this size.

What would a good player expect you to do if you had AA KK on this lead out?

Wow this is getting long. I guess I should just watch the rest and summarize.

I think if you do the ranging exercises I suggested you may feel you would play this hand differently.

By the way the cardschat equity calculator is a very helpful tool.

Ks7c has 52% equity on that flop.

As a side note if we have a skill advantage we need not play flips vs weaker players.

Hope this helps

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Jon Poker said:

The preflop raise is HUGE and screams out the hand strength of a holding just like yours. Even with the limp in front I think I go 140 or 160 - that being said I think it's a small error ‐ you get two callers and go to the flop.

This is where the mistakes start for me... the flop is 764 with two hearts - the hearts are great for us BUT the board texture is terrible for us especially vs two opponents. This smashes alot of limp-call holdings the villans could have - while we have good equity with two overs and a flush draw here - we are still behind alot of the time to hands that just aren't folding. That being said when we raise here, we are only getting called by hands that are beating us. If the board was less coordinated with 2 hearts I would like the raise here but not on this texture.

So for me this is where all of the "free content" and the whole "raise your best draws and your worst draws" go out the window. I'm just not into value towning myself vs these boards anymore. I simply just call flop - the board is super coordinated and when we raise and get called we are faced with awkward spots on the turn when we do not improve - so I avoid this altogether and just call. If they bet turn, I call turn as well and I call river. No point in raising any street whatsoever. We still lose then hand but likely still have chips so our tournament is not over in this instance.

As played I would check back turn after my flop raise gets called and then call down river if they bet and if they check to me I would bet river and go broke if it were to come to that.

I hope this advice makes some sort of sense to you. Hope it helps, good luck in your games.

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Jon Poker said:

So for me this is where all of the "free content" and the whole "raise your best draws and your worst draws" go out the window. I'm just not into value towning myself vs these boards anymore. I simply just call flop - the board is super coordinated and when we raise and get called we are faced with awkward spots on the turn when we do not improve - so I avoid this altogether and just call. If they bet turn, I call turn as well and I call river. No point in raising any street whatsoever. We still lose then hand but likely still have chips so our tournament is not over in this instance.

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