$7.50 NLHE MTT Deep Stacked: Big $7.50 NHLE MTT: AK no UTG, 2x e 4 calls

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pokerstars, $6.69 + $0.81 - Hold'em No Limit - 40/80 (10 ante) - 9 players
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bad.fish866 (UTG): 4,822 (60 bb)
aldabboos (UTG+1): 8,766 (110 bb)
shama1970 (MP): 2,407 (30 bb)
FelipeC99 (MP+1): 4,674 (58 bb)
mls338 (LP): 10,424 (130 bb)
khrystyna789 (CO): 4,818 (60 bb)
Rusakov Andr (BU): 4,673 (58 bb)
Philippov. A (SB): 4,868 (61 bb)
Andrey_Gvrlk (BB): 4,548 (57 bb)

Pre-Flop: (210) Hero (bad.fish866) is UTG with A K
bad.fish866 (UTG) raises to 160, 2 players fold, FelipeC99 (MP+1) calls 160, mls338 (LP) calls 160, 3 players fold, Andrey_Gvrlk (BB) calls 80

Flop: (770) T J A (4 players)
Andrey_Gvrlk (BB) checks, bad.fish866 (UTG) checks, FelipeC99 (MP+1) checks, mls338 (LP) bets 770, Andrey_Gvrlk (BB) folds, bad.fish866 (UTG) calls 770, FelipeC99 (MP+1) folds

Turn: (2,310) 4 (2 players)
bad.fish866 (UTG) checks, mls338 (LP) bets 2,310, bad.fish866 (UTG) raises to 3,882 (all-in), mls338 (LP) calls 1,572

River: (10,074) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 10,074

Showdown:
bad.fish866 (UTG) shows A K (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 43%, Flop: 15%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%)

mls338 (LP) shows T T (a full house, Tens full of Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 57%, Flop: 85%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%)

mls338 (LP) wins 10,074



Hello guys, this tournament I entered through satellite. Could someone suggest a different line of play? Is PF raised OK? He did not have many notes from the villain, only he was aggressive. Was that check-flop bad? Correct would be c-bet and fold if a re-raise was received?
 
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I think it played out pretty much the way it was supposed to.

Min raise up front did nothing for you, so next time make that a bit bigger. But once villain hit his set it is impossible for him to get away from it.

You might have played it slower, with the thought he hit 2 pair. But a large portion of us would do the same thing you did.
 
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I'm unsure about turn bet/all-in.

Since the villain is aggressive we can suggest that if the he had any premium holding like at least TT+, AQ+ he would've 3-bet. bluff in a multi-way pot is unlikely. Thus his pot-size bet on the flop in a multi-way pot represents that he hit the flop big. Villain's range should contain AJ, AT, KQ so we can suspect 2 pairs or straight; but it can be a made pair (AQ, A9 or worse, jack/ten with K-Q-9-8 kicker for example).

On the flop you had top pair/top kicker and you were likely ahead of villain's range so calling villain's bet on the flop is acceptable. But villain's pot-size bet on the turn is effectively all-in for you (if you call), and you don't have fold equity. Also a flush draw appears which doesn't benefit you. So this is a tough spot; personally I would've folded as I wouldn't want to risk almost 50bb by making a hero call relying on a pair.

Given the villain indeed hit the flop any different course of action postflop would've resulted in a similar situation for you so in the end it's a question of calling or folding.
 
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Your raise preflop didn't scare enough players. You got too many players in the hand. So a higher raise would be better. On the flop I would bet. Any sets, double pairs or straights someone could have hit would probably reraise you, so you have a chance to fold. Now you were somehow pot committed by just calling Villain's bet.
 
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preflop is fine. imo

flop: cbet/call. imo

As played flop: call ; turn: fold. imo

turn: bet/fold or check/fold depends on villains. imo
 
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Dont really like the play on the turn. Dont really know what kind of reads you had on the players, but whenever you see a full pot-sized bet twice you should probably get out of the hand.
 
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just looks like a cooler to me but I would have c-bet the flop here though
 
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Wow feels like a freeroll with so many callers pre. I am not a fun of cbetting into so many participants in the pot but here I would cbet flop and check turn because I have showdown value.

If you got through the river in a paired board you have a very tough decision because you block some of his Kx bluffs and some Ax he could just called pre with.

Probably I would have the same result but with a different play line :D
 
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You open raise size is fine as long as long as you use the same for your entire range.

I would have c-bet though - there are a ton of worse hands that can call and if you get raised you can find a fold. There are not a lot of bluffs (Q9s x 4?) - but the two pairs, sets are usually raising this board. You block the nuts with your K, but the flopped straight may not raise anyway. Depending on the size of the raise will determine if you can call with your gut shot.

I would bet three times for value on this board run out but fold to any raises. There just aren't enough bluffs for your opponent to have .
 
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First of all, try a slightly bigger bet pre-flop. I like to make it closer to 4x as I don't really want too many callers. Let's be honest, calling 1 or 2 BBs doesn't make too much difference to majority of the players online.

As far as the shove on the turn goes, did you shove it for value or as a bluff?
If you wanted value, you are not getting any, pretty much the only hand that can call and you have beat is AQ or a hand like KJd KTd, maybe some FDSD. If you bluffed you have to realize, there are so few of those in villains range. Betting pot size on the flop and being called from a player OOP means that the caller (hero) has to have connected with the board. Therefore, it is extremely hard to bluff the turn again from villain's perspective.
Tournament-wise this is a fold on the turn. You still have a stack of close to 50BB that you can easily play with and hopefully get ITM.
 
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I usually would 1/2 pot or 2/3rd pot raise in the that position to start out. Also with him betting pot into 4 players on that board I would seriously even just consider folding even though that might not be the right play.In my mind is AQ doing this sizing into 4 players? Probably not. Honestly what else am I beating at that point? AJ/A10 and QK are the most likely scenarios going through my mind. The turn really doesn't do anything and If he's still betting pot I think it's time to let it go.
 
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Wow feels like a freeroll with so many callers pre. I am not a fun of cbetting into so many participants in the pot but here I would cbet flop and check turn because I have showdown value.

If you got through the river in a paired board you have a very tough decision because you block some of his Kx bluffs and some Ax he could just called pre with.

Probably I would have the same result but with a different play line :D
just looks like a cooler to me but I would have c-bet the flop here though
 
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Preflop raise to 2bbs is completely fine, most regs raise 2,2x-2,5x, but raising 2 blinds is completely fine.

On the flop, I think it's usually split between checking and betting, but not in this tournament. in micro-tournaments like this you should go for value, because there will be a lot of players who could pay you with weaker aces and, pair+gutshot hands and etc, while in more expensive tournaments, they probably would just fold or raise and turn their hands into bluff and put you in a very difficult situation when you bet. So, again, in this tournament, you should just go and c-bet. As played, obviously you can't fold to flop bet, no point in raising, you just call.

Turn, at this point you are not beating anything. Villain's range consists of sets, two pairs and straights. If effective stack was bigger, there could be argument for a raise as a bluff, but that's not the case here, you have zero fold equity, so it's fold.

if effective stack was bigger, should you turn AK into a bluff? You block AA (top set) and KQ(straight) and have some outs to straight, so on paper it looks like a good bluff. Decent villain should fold all bluffs and two pairs, and maybe bottom set(?). The problem is villain shouldn't have AA, so our blocker is irrelevant. It's better to have J as a blocker, because villain has JJ in his range, so KJ and QJ are better hands for bluff, since you block "live" combinations, and still have same outs for a straight. Also, KK and QQ are better bluffs than AK, because you block more combinations of straight.
 
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