$7.50 NLHE MTT Bounty: Final table $7.50 PKO AJo Shove 52 BB?

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$7.50 NLHE MTT Bounty: Final table AJo Shove 52 BB?

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 22/19/2.3

Final table of $7.50 PKO. I have 52 BB and 2/8. Villain to my left seems like a decent reg. (Not opted in sharkscope but shows 82 ability over 15k games).


UTG shoves 12BB. I am UTG +2 and have AJo. I thought about shoving as I am usually ahead of the UTG's shove (plus with his stats and previous plays). But then I felt someone from behind, specially the villain to my left, BU or SB (who covers me) could wake up with a hand. So I decided to flat. Which in hindsight seems like a mistake because had I shoved, I believe villain to my left would have to fold AQs/AQ, 22-1010, given ICM.


Basically I think If I shove, the calling range of big/mid stacks will have to be very tight (maybe JJ+, AK). All this is in hindsight obviously.


This hand turned out to be significant as the Villain to my left (who I felt is a decent reg), chipped up and made the dynamics more difficult for me later.


So my question is this a push/fold spot given the bounty nature and ICM pressure? Or is it OK to flat there and fold to a significant shove from behind (which is what actually happened).





Hand:




pokerstars Hand #185050614873: Tournament #2271562261, $3.29+$3.40+$0.81 USD


Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXVI (10000/20000) - 2018/04/10 19:07:30 IST [2018/04/10 9:37:30 ET]


Table '2271562261 20' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: frank1n100 (62323 in chips, $20.82 bounty)
Seat 2: ricozo (948682 in chips, $29.84 bounty)
Seat 3: ForeverLin (1449364 in chips, $72.45 bounty)
Seat 4: vertu8989 (783103 in chips, $70.36 bounty)
Seat 6: Góras (246961 in chips, $29.64 bounty)
Seat 7: knifetrax (376713 in chips, $3.40 bounty)
Seat 8: bkkblues99 (1037060 in chips, $68.66 bounty)
Seat 9: skuja (945794 in chips, $40.78 bounty)


*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bkkblues99 [Jc As]
Góras: raises 224461 to 244461 and is all-in
knifetrax: folds
bkkblues99: calls 244461
skuja: raises 698833 to 943294 and is all-in
frank1n100: folds
ricozo: folds
ForeverLin: folds
vertu8989: folds
bkkblues99: folds
Uncalled bet (698833) returned to skuja
*** FLOP *** [Ts 8s 8h]
*** TURN *** [Ts 8s 8h] 8♣
*** RIVER *** [Ts 8s 8h 8c] 9♥
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Góras: shows [Qh Kh] (three of a kind, Eights)
skuja: shows [Ac Qd] (three of a kind, Eights - Ace kicker)
skuja collected 783383 from pot
skuja wins $14.82 for eliminating Góras and their own bounty increases by $14.82 to $55.60
Góras finished the tournament in 8th place and received $47.21.
 
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Some information needed for people who want to give advise...

What is stack sizes all players (BB)? What 2/8 means?
How many people is on final table right now (it is provided but really hard to read) ?
Is there any ante involved?
Payout structure?
Based on what is this statistics created, i mean how many hands (22/19/2.3) ? etc...

Sorry but for me it is really difficult to read this post....



For example look this post, it is much better to read https://www.cardschat.com/forum/tournament-hand-analysis-51/freeroll-nlhe-mtt-cc-freeroll-373473/ Imo
 
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PokerStars Tournament #2263798949, No Limit Hold'em
Buy-In: $1.59/$5.10/$0.81 USD
4571 players
Total Prize Pool: $30579.99 USD
Tournament started 2018/04/07 14:30:00 CET [2018/04/07 8:30:00 ET]


Dear kucu2014,

You finished the tournament in 1st place. A USD 619.49 award has been credited to your Stars Account.
You have also received USD 1,504.44 in Knockout Bounties for this tournament. You won bounties for the following players: adrianab23, Pokerhans61, jaxicp, Attika333, MCMLVII, kuprial, La Douce01, PETRI 0 71, ProstoMinavam, JASHMA, mike origi, smokesy118, Frankminator, regisser, GangBangBati, maha55529, d.krlv, Kivaasurdna, kucu2014
Note: As you won the tournament, you also won your own bounty.



Congratulations!

Thank you for participating.
 
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I like your line. :as4: :jc4: is fairly strong 8 handed, especially against an UTG shoving range.
I do not think that Villain will fold :ac4::qd4: here. Flatting here with a had that is ahead of the UTG range, but is vulnerable to being dominated from behind is better than folding or reshoving yourself. Flatting here shows a lot of strength, more so in my opinion than going all in yourself. I would advise that you find spots similar to this to flat with your stronger hands (AA, KK, QQ, AK) to balance your range of call/fold with call/call traping​
 
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Some information needed for people who want to give advise...

What is stack sizes all players (BB)? What 2/8 means?
How many people is on final table right now (it is provided but really hard to read) ?
Is there any ante involved?
Payout structure?
Based on what is this statistics created, i mean how many hands (22/19/2.3) ? etc...

Sorry but for me it is really difficult to read this post....



For example look this post, it is much better to read https://www.cardschat.com/forum/tournament-hand-analysis-51/freeroll-nlhe-mtt-cc-freeroll-373473/ Imo


Sorry but this is one of my first post that's probably why the format isn't good. To answer your questions:


1. What is stack sizes all players (BB)?


UTG: 12 BB
UTG+1: 19 BB
LJ (Hero) : 52 BB
HJ:: 47 BB
CO: 3 BB
BU: 47 BB
SB: 72 BB[FONT=NotoSans, Lato, arial, sans-serif]BB: 39 BB
[/FONT][FONT=NotoSans, Lato, arial, sans-serif]
[/FONT]2. What 2/8 means?
My position was 2 out of 8.

3. How many people is on final table right now (it is provided but really hard to read) 8 people left

4. Is there any ante involved? yes. 2500
5. Payout structure? Can't seem to pull that info off right now but I remember something like
1st ~340 2nd ~230
6. Based on what is this statistics created, i mean how many hands (22/19/2.3) ? etc...
Based on 78 hands

Thanks for the reference post. That is definitely easier to read and understand. Will try to follow that format in the future.
 
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PokerStars Tournament #2263798949, No Limit Hold'em
Buy-In: $1.59/$5.10/$0.81 USD
4571 players
Total Prize Pool: $30579.99 USD
Tournament started 2018/04/07 14:30:00 CET [2018/04/07 8:30:00 ET]


Dear kucu2014,

You finished the tournament in 1st place. A USD 619.49 award has been credited to your Stars Account.
You have also received USD 1,504.44 in Knockout Bounties for this tournament. You won bounties for the following players: adrianab23, Pokerhans61, jaxicp, Attika333, MCMLVII, kuprial, La Douce01, PETRI 0 71, ProstoMinavam, JASHMA, mike origi, smokesy118, Frankminator, regisser, GangBangBati, maha55529, d.krlv, Kivaasurdna, kucu2014
Note: As you won the tournament, you also won your own bounty.



Congratulations!

Thank you for participating.
Nice ship! Congratulations! Really shows value of winning the Bounty Builders. 1st $619 and $1500 in bounties!!
 
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I like your line. :as4: :jc4: is fairly strong 8 handed, especially against an UTG shoving range.
I do not think that Villain will fold :ac4::qd4: here. Flatting here with a had that is ahead of the UTG range, but is vulnerable to being dominated from behind is better than folding or reshoving yourself. Flatting here shows a lot of strength, more so in my opinion than going all in yourself. I would advise that you find spots similar to this to flat with your stronger hands (AA, KK, QQ, AK) to balance your range of call/fold with call/call traping​
Didn't think of how a flat looks so strong there. Actually if I had QQ+ or even AKs I probably would have flatted to induce action from behind. So yea you are absolutely right in that sense.

Also, recalling a previous hand in the same table, I flatted the shove of shortest stack (was less than 8BB) with A5s. Villain probably picked up on that and ranged me on a weak AX or maybe some weak broadways.
 
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