$.50 NLHE MTT: Turn check raise with a combo draw. BTN v BB battle

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 7/3/3

Hero is 45bb deep w 78s (clubs) on the BTN.

At this stack depth I am raising this hand with a 100% freq on the BTN when its folded to me.

I get called by the BB, who has some tight numbers but is from the Ukraine for what its worth.

Game started at: 2017/6/6 9:45:6
Game ID: 930199117 15/30 $25 GTD - On Demand, Table 1 (Hold'em)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: RealBH (2700).
Seat 2: Gatortish27 (1710).
Seat 4: HERO (1344).
Seat 5: TopDogRussell (1350).
Seat 6: VILLAIN (1974).
Seat 7: Thadpole (1485).
Seat 8: Rocket11 (1500).
Seat 9: LagoolA (1422).
Player TopDogRussell has small blind (15)
Player VILLAIN has big blind (30)
Player TopDogRussell received a card.
Player TopDogRussell received a card.
Player VILLAIN received a card.
Player VILLAIN received a card.
Player Thadpole received a card.
Player Thadpole received a card.
Player Rocket11 received a card.
Player Rocket11 received a card.
Player LagoolA received a card.
Player LagoolA received a card.
Player RealBH received a card.
Player RealBH received a card.
Player Gatortish27 received a card.
Player Gatortish27 received a card.
Player HERO received card: [7c]
Player HERO received card: [8c]
Player Thadpole folds
Player Rocket11 folds
Player LagoolA folds
Player RealBH folds
Player Gatortish27 folds
Player HERO raises (66)
Player TopDogRussell calls (51)
Player VILLAIN calls (36)
*** FLOP ***: [5c Kh 6c]

Favorable flop. I cbet 1/2 pot and get called.

Here's the turn and turn action

Player TopDogRussell checks
Player VILLAIN checks
Player HERO bets (99)
Player TopDogRussell folds
Player VILLAIN calls (99)
*** TURN ***: [5c Kh 6c] [6h]
Player VILLAIN checks
Player HERO bets (198)
Player VILLAIN raises (525)
Player HERO calls (327)

Not a great turn but we continue the story with a second barrel. Oops. Check raise. I don't see any other option other than call.

Any views?

Do a quick math! You are getting 23% pot odds and you need at least 25% equity. In this case you have still 30% equity to make either straight or flush. Yes, that is a correct call!

I called but the river gets interesting

Player HERO calls (327)
*** RIVER ***: [5c Kh 6c 6h] [8h]
Player VILLAIN allin (1284)

Do you call here with an 8?

No I wouldn't call here, I think you had to shove more on flop.

Tough spot! I am leaning towards the fold! Ugh he is basically representing 6x or Kx, which in both cases you would beat! Bad bad run out[emoji85]

No1eJoker said:

No I wouldn't call here, I think you had to shove more on flop.

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What are you going to accomplish by shoving your hand on the flop?????? You would basically miss the value of your hand! Don't be result oriented in poker.

I would bet higher on the flop, at least 67% pot, on the turn, I guess you should 3bet shove on the check-raise or fold, you just bet more than 30% of your stack and got 9 outs from flush plus 6 to straight, in case he has the 6, K or 99+, you have the outs to call, but you loose the chance your opponent has to fold

bumerangue said:

I would bet higher on the flop, at least 67% pot, on the turn, I guess you should 3bet shove on the check-raise or fold, you just bet more than 30% of your stack and got 9 outs from flush plus 6 to straight, in case he has the 6, K or 99+, you have the outs to call, but you loose the chance your opponent has to fold

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I do not think so the V forced to fold if we shove on the turn because he needs to call extra 700 to win 2800 pot, would you fold in this spot?

021poker said:

I do not think so the V forced to fold if we shove on the turn because he needs to call extra 700 to win 2800 pot, would you fold in this spot?

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You are right, I wouldnt fold, but I already saw players folding on this spot on 0.50 tables. Yet, you got at least 20%-30% chance of winning, considering He might get two pair or better

021poker said:

What are you going to accomplish by shoving your hand on the flop?????? You would basically miss the value of your hand! Don't be result oriented in poker.

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Because he had a many outs on the flop (9 for flush and 6 for straight) , he can bluff here, if he had bet more maybe it would opponent fold.

I don't mind my sizing since I want to bet my full range on this flop.

Maybe I should have bet more on the turn but the 6 is a tough card to bet more on. I would be betting the same amount with my Kx hands which have limited equity against a 6.

I hero called the river bc although backdoor flushes are in V's range as well as 6's this is a small amount of combos's relative to the pot odds I'm getting.

I block many of the 6x combos with my 87s. Villain should only have 66, A6, and 56s, and 55 in my view. Kx hands are unlikely to be jamming this run out.

So small amount of value relative to bluffs = hero call.

Player VILLAIN allin (1284)
Player HERO allin (654)
Uncalled bet (630) returned to VILLAIN
------ Summary ------
Pot: 2754
Board: [5c Kh 6c 6h 8h]
Player RealBH does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Player Gatortish27 does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
*Player HERO shows: Two pairs. 8s and 6s [7c 8c]. Bets: 1344. Collects: 2754. Wins: 1410.
Player TopDogRussell does not show cards.Bets: 66. Collects: 0. Loses: 66.
Player VILLAIN shows: One pair of 6s [4h Ac]. Bets: 1344. Collects: 0. Loses: 1344.
Player Thadpole does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Player Rocket11 does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Player LagoolA does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Game ended at: 2017/6/6 9:47:19

$.50 NLHE MTT: Turn check raise with a combo draw. BTN v BB battle

awesome said:

I don't mind my sizing since I want to bet my full range on this flop.

Maybe I should have bet more on the turn but the 6 is a tough card to bet more on. I would be betting the same amount with my Kx hands which have limited equity against a 6.

I hero called the river bc although backdoor flushes are in V's range as well as 6's this is a small amount of combos's relative to the pot odds I'm getting.

I block many of the 6x combos with my 87s. Villain should only have 66, A6, and 56s, and 55 in my view. Kx hands are unlikely to be jamming this run out.

So small amount of value relative to bluffs = hero call.

Player VILLAIN allin (1284)
Player HERO allin (654)
Uncalled bet (630) returned to VILLAIN
------ Summary ------
Pot: 2754
Board: [5c Kh 6c 6h 8h]
Player RealBH does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Player Gatortish27 does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
*Player HERO shows: Two pairs. 8s and 6s [7c 8c]. Bets: 1344. Collects: 2754. Wins: 1410.
Player TopDogRussell does not show cards.Bets: 66. Collects: 0. Loses: 66.
Player VILLAIN shows: One pair of 6s [4h Ac]. Bets: 1344. Collects: 0. Loses: 1344.
Player Thadpole does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Player Rocket11 does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Player LagoolA does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Game ended at: 2017/6/6 9:47:19

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That makes sense. nice call! What about K6s? Don't you think he would call the hand on the bb pre?

I think you played the hand pretty solid. You're getting the implied and direct odds to call on the turn when villain check raises you, obviously representing a 6x or strong Kx he was attempting to trap. The call on the river was a nice one, I think it depends a lot on what you think Villain is capable of. If you know he can c/r draws, I think a call here is ok, but keep in mind we're blocking a LOT of what we want villain to be bluffing with here (78, clubs). The only other bluffs he can have are 34s, heart combos or something like 97 of hearts which got there but we block that as well so maybe not as likely. Interesting hand and I think you played it well.