$5 NLHE MTT: GTO concepts

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Opponents range is Ax+ Kx+ 22+ cbet % of 75%
Hero raises it 3BB UTG
Villain calls on the button
SB,BB fold
flop comes Q 4 7
Hero checks
Villian raises 4.5 BB into a pot of 9
Hero check raises to 11 BB

What should the heros range be to make this reraise?
 
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Opponents range is Ax+ Kx+ 22+ cbet % of 75%
Hero raises it 3BB UTG
Villain calls on the button
SB,BB fold
flop comes Q 4 7
Hero checks
Villian raises 4.5 BB into a pot of 9
Hero check raises to 11 BB

What should the heros range be to make this reraise?


Thanks for posting

24.5 pot 6.5 TO CALL Any flush draws flop?

Are you expecting folds giving a villain 3.7-1 pot odds?
To include bluffs in our range we must make a check raise size
that will cause some folds on the flop.
What size check raise would you consider effective for value and folds?

Villain 75% cbet means possible cbet bluffs, do we want bluffs to fold?
If not then we need to call with more value hands which decreases our bluffing range.

Is AA or KK in our check raise flop range if villain stacks off turn and river with Q10 here?
Is AQ in villains range of calls on button preflop?
How does villain play turn and river?
How will that change our check raise range on the flop?

Hope this helps

:):)
 
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I think you are overthinking the question which is good most the time.
What is a respectable believable range to have to win this a good % of the time.
AQ+ 10 10+ ,44, 77
or is q7+ range respectable enough to win and outplay my opponents who are 75% cbetters with range of Ax+ Kx+ 22+

What should Our check raise flop range be?
For example to include a few draws and add an element of bluff and still have respect from our opponent in this spot.
My Answer would be JJ+ KQ suited AQ 56 suited 77 , 44, Q4, Q7
But preflop is JJ+ q4+ too much of a range to be believable 60+% of the time on this checkraise?
What is a good range here>? in your opinion
 
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Opponents range is Ax+ Kx+ 22+ cbet % of 75%
Hero raises it 3BB UTG
Villain calls on the button
SB,BB fold
flop comes Q 4 7
Hero checks
Villian raises 4.5 BB into a pot of 9
Hero check raises to 11 BB


What should the heros range be to make this reraise?

A lot more information is needed to answer this. What are the suits? This is important to know, if flush draws are possible. Also what are the stack sizes? If they are 50 BB or less, I probably dont want to take this line with any hand, since I can just go bet, bet, bet and still get stacks in on the river, if I want to.
 
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A lot more information is needed to answer this. What are the suits? This is important to know, if flush draws are possible. Also what are the stack sizes? If they are 50 BB or less, I probably dont want to take this line with any hand, since I can just go bet, bet, bet and still get stacks in on the river, if I want to.
Meant to write 20 BB ooppps sry bout that.
The opponent cbets flop 75%
there is no other information available, as is the case when playing randoms in a tourney format.
You have his range and his flop c-bet tendency
If we only do this with hands that beat him
We become predictable and lose value on our good hands
check raising him with less than premium cards adds value to our bad hands


Even if you did flop top pair as in your example and he cbet and you flat call.
You let him set the price to draw out on you or he checks to get the free river card.
And if he hit or not we have no idea and we will end up paying him off
check Raising gains information
Also Represents strength

example Villian did flop top pair mid kicker and continued with his cbet
You check raise him 2.5x his bet
He is either gonna fold or believe he is behind and check it down.

So what do you believe is a good range for this specific concept against amatuer/professional poker players that tend to Continuation bet a fair percent of the time?

There is no wrong answer as poker is constantly evolving.
I like your thoughts and line of reasoning
But we rarely get enough information
PFR VPIP help us understand his opening range and what he bets with and can be abused by reraising BIG preflop.
But I find people more willing to shove QQs preflop than to call a bet on the flop.
Preflop is coin flippy but what if i flat called with 56 against qq
A 10 4 or K 9 2 flop 789
Sure I was a DOG to win preflop lol
Now the Queens play dead on the flop!!
 
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You want to extract value so why to check value hands in 5$ tourney (you loosing tons of winrate). If you want to have XR range i would start with QQ and KJ JT bdfd.
 
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You want to extract value so why to check value hands in 5$ tourney (you loosing tons of winrate). If you want to have XR range i would start with QQ and KJ JT bdfd.
its a specific situation against a cbetter
This is not evaluating strategy but a range question in a specific spot ie OP
 
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