$5.50 NLHE MTT: Would you play this hand the same?

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Daithi

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It's a satellite and I am just on my 8th hand. I've had 2 hands with action and against the same guy. I will post the 1st now, to provide context for the second hand.

PartyGaming - 800/1600 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

CO: 89,725 (56.1 bb)
BTN: 66,123 (41.3 bb)
SB: 14,738 (9.2 bb)
BB: 137,897 (86.2 bb)
Hero (UTG): 100,125 (62.6 bb)

5 players post ante of 200, SB posts 800, BB posts 1,600

Pre Flop: (pot: 3,400) Hero has :9s4: :9d4:
Hero raises to 4,000, 3 folds, BB calls 2,400

Flop: (9,800, 2 players) :ac4: :4s4: :8s4:
BB checks, Hero bets 4,900, BB raises to 10,400, Hero calls 5,500

Turn: (30,600, 2 players) :10c4:
BB bets 30,600, Hero folds

Results: 30,600 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: :ac4: :4s4: :8s4: :10c4:

BB wins 30,600

So basically, I raise preflop with 99. This guys calls. Ace comes on the flop. I c-bet to represent the Ace/and not to show weakness against the ace by not betting. He minraises my bet. I call because he is OOP and I wanna see his move on the Turn. He bets the pot. I fold.

At this stage I have a feeling he called me with any Ax, pocket pair, and also strong possibility that he was completely bluffing. But it's too early and I don't know.

Very next hand....:D


partypoker, $5.50 + $0 - Hold'em No Limit - 900/1,800 (225 ante) - 5 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

phorvnr (UTG): 89,525 (50 bb)
alsparta (CO): 65,923 (37 bb)
Fishin234 (BU): 13,738 (8 bb)
doublebubble47 (SB): 153,897 (85 bb)
daithy84 (BB): 85,525 (48 bb)

Pre-Flop: (3,825) Hero (daithy84) is BB with 5♦ 7♣
3 players fold, doublebubble47 (SB) calls 900, daithy84 (BB) checks

Flop: (4,725) A♣ 7♠ 7♦ (2 players)
doublebubble47 (SB) checks, daithy84 (BB) bets 1,800, doublebubble47 (SB) calls 1,800

Turn: (8,325) 4♥ (2 players)
doublebubble47 (SB) checks, daithy84 (BB) bets 4,162, doublebubble47 (SB) calls 4,162

River: (16,649) 8♣ (2 players)
doublebubble47 (SB) bets 16,649, daithy84 (BB) raises to 46,800, doublebubble47 (SB) raises to 145,910 (all-in), daithy84 (BB) calls 30,738 (all-in)

Total pot: 171,725

Showdown:
doublebubble47 (SB) shows 7♥ A♦ (a full house, Sevens full of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 72%, Flop: 100%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

daithy84 (BB) shows 5♦ 7♣ (three of a kind, Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 28%, Flop: 0%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

doublebubble47 (SB) wins 171,725
 
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Daithi said:
It's a satellite and I am just on my 8th hand. I've had 2 hands with action and against the same guy. I will post the 1st now, to provide context for the second hand.

PartyGaming - 800/1600 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

CO: 89,725 (56.1 bb)
BTN: 66,123 (41.3 bb)
SB: 14,738 (9.2 bb)
BB: 137,897 (86.2 bb)
Hero (UTG): 100,125 (62.6 bb)

5 players post ante of 200, SB posts 800, BB posts 1,600

Pre Flop: (pot: 3,400) Hero has :9s4: :9d4:
Hero raises to 4,000, 3 folds, BB calls 2,400

Flop: (9,800, 2 players) :ac4: :4s4: :8s4:
BB checks, Hero bets 4,900, BB raises to 10,400, Hero calls 5,500

Turn: (30,600, 2 players) :10c4:
BB bets 30,600, Hero folds

Results: 30,600 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: :ac4: :4s4: :8s4: :10c4:

BB wins 30,600

So basically, I raise preflop with 99. This guys calls. Ace comes on the flop. I c-bet to represent the Ace/and not to show weakness against the ace by not betting. He minraises my bet. I call because he is OOP and I wanna see his move on the Turn. He bets the pot. I fold.

At this stage I have a feeling he called me with any Ax, pocket pair, and also strong possibility that he was completely bluffing. But it's too early and I don't know.

Very next hand....:D


partypoker, $5.50 + $0 - Hold'em No Limit - 900/1,800 (225 ante) - 5 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

phorvnr (UTG): 89,525 (50 bb)
alsparta (CO): 65,923 (37 bb)
Fishin234 (BU): 13,738 (8 bb)
doublebubble47 (SB): 153,897 (85 bb)
daithy84 (BB): 85,525 (48 bb)

Pre-Flop: (3,825) Hero (daithy84) is BB with 5♦ 7♣
3 players fold, doublebubble47 (SB) calls 900, daithy84 (BB) checks

Flop: (4,725) A♣ 7♠ 7♦ (2 players)
doublebubble47 (SB) checks, daithy84 (BB) bets 1,800, doublebubble47 (SB) calls 1,800

Turn: (8,325) 4♥ (2 players)
doublebubble47 (SB) checks, daithy84 (BB) bets 4,162, doublebubble47 (SB) calls 4,162

River: (16,649) 8♣ (2 players)
doublebubble47 (SB) bets 16,649, daithy84 (BB) raises to 46,800, doublebubble47 (SB) raises to 145,910 (all-in), daithy84 (BB) calls 30,738 (all-in)

Total pot: 171,725

Showdown:
doublebubble47 (SB) shows 7♥ A♦ (a full house, Sevens full of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 72%, Flop: 100%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

daithy84 (BB) shows 5♦ 7♣ (three of a kind, Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 28%, Flop: 0%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

doublebubble47 (SB) wins 171,725
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After 4b river u should think about 79s+ and 44 or 88, after 4b shove i think fold. Fl check-call, turn check-call, river donk and 4b shove!!! cant be bluff without drugs))))
 
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MrTerek said:
After 4b river u should think about 79s+ and 44 or 88, after 4b shove i think fold. Fl check-call, turn check-call, river donk and 4b shove!!! cant be bluff without drugs))))
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I thought that he was one of those guys who just applies large raises to get folds. You see them occasionally. I committed myself by raising (massively) his River donk. Also AA fits his range in a hindsight.

However, it is clear as day when you put it this way "Fl check-call, turn check-call, river donk and 4b shove!", which is fair enough, point well made. But you haven't commented at all on the previous hand, which is a large part of the present hand context. Why did he do a big overbet the last hand?...
 
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Very deep, just play the call on the river, you do not need a raise.

His hand blocks 7x but xo range of SB is complicated and can have, so the kicker 7x probably will be greater than yours.

In addition, 44/88 and 56 win her hand.
 
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Well in the first hand I vastly prefer a bet/fold. All his reasonable bluffs have tons of equity and may continue barreling most turn cards. Plus we'll have a very tough time calling down with this hand.

In the second hand, we shouldn't even be raising river, seriously. Even if he has bluffs, what does raising accomplish? He has no weaker value hands that make sense so raising makes him fold what we beat, and he's NEVER folding better hands.

I get calling off once you raise, because you feel committed, but after he check calls this board twice and then leads river, you should be kind of annoyed. Not folding, but this is not a raise. Just call, and don't even be that surprised when you lose the hand.
 
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Yea you've showed strength on each street; for him to lead out on the river a call is in order. I certainly take a step back after the line he's taken on the flop/turn; that river bet sounds the alarms. I'd like to say I fold but I most likely call expecting to lose.

Also, agreed with Scourrge that I fold the first hand after the raise on the flop.
 
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