$5.50 NLHE MTT Turbo: 9s on BTN of $500 GTD 1 of the FT

It's easy to say FT decisions shouldn't sway you (Easy to say, hard to actually do), This was the 4th FT of the morning thus far (well near FT), the other 3 I busted 1st on the FT (Back to the question).

So I'm sitting In like 7th over-all, and we're 1 away from FT, and I mean 1 player Is near dead In the water, we also have the CL of the entire game on our left (In the SB when we're on the BTN).

Now we've got a decision, and If I fold, simple (I make another FT)+I can do better than a "Min cash", now to get to that stage and do that will requires a stack and while I'm In the middle of the "pack per-say, I'm more than confident enough with that "area". The Issue I was facing was this damn CL, I mean I wanted/I needed to bring this guy down a notch or two maybe more, a-lot more, and not for any dumb reason, but because he was "taking all the spots" and because of that I could never take a "single spot during bubble, or near ITM" (As he just was A.I+A.I+3Bet A.I). So I get 9s and really didn't wish to shove as their we're players under me/smaller than I, than It dawned on me "I'm not here for 10th/9th/8th/ I want 1st/2nd/3rd", so I went for It, "Knowing more than likely the CL was calling with something decent".

My question Is this, If we know the player will call us (We're like 70+sure), should we still be shoving 9s vs a player like that In that situation


party poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t/t Blinds - 5 players - View hand 3031007
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BB: t63473 1 BBs - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 13, AF: 0.5, hands: 109
UTG: t110754 1 BBs - VPIP: 17, PFR: 9, 3B: 12, AF: 0.0, Hands: 53
CO: t300575 1 BBs - VPIP: 22, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 37
Hero (BTN): t157981
SB: t804443 1 BBs - VPIP: 23, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 1.5, Hands: 96

Pre Flop: (t0) Hero is BTN with 9 <font color='red'>♥</font> 9 <font color='black'>♣</font>
2 folds, Hero raises to t156481, SB raises to t288962, 1 fold

Flop: (t312962) K <font color='red'>♦</font> A <font color='red'>♦</font> 4 <font color='red'>♦</font> (2 players)

Turn: (t312962) 3 <font color='black'>♠</font> (2 players)

River: (t312962) 5 <font color='black'>♠</font> (2 players)

Final Pot: t312962
Hero shows 9 <font color='red'>♥</font> 9 <font color='black'>♣</font>
SB shows Q <font color='red'>♥</font> K <font color='red'>♥</font>
SB wins t8000
SB wins t336462
(Rake: t-31500)




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saw flop | saw showdown

SB (t804,443)
MP (t300,575)
Hero (Button) (t157,981)
BB (t63,473)
UTG (t110,754)

Hero's M: 5.02

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9

, 9

2 folds, Hero raises to t156,481 (All-In), SB raises t288,962, 1 fold

Flop: (t476,943) K

, A

, 4

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t476,943) 3

(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t476,943) 5

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t476,943
Main pot: t336,462 between SB and Hero, won by SB
Side pot 1: t140,481 won by SB

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had 9

, 9

(one pair, nines).
SB had Q

, K

(one pair, Kings).
Outcome: SB won t476,943

naruto_miu said:

"I'm not here for 10th/9th/8th/ I want 1st/2nd/3rd", so I went for It

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wp according to you your goal. imo

M aprox 5 you could survive 5 orbits but seems there is a lot smaller stacks than you are, you probably (possible) do not have those 5 orbits left. i feel better to shove semi-weak pair in rather than ATC and your goal is, like it should be, to win. imo

I think the play is fine it just all depends on the goal, immediate SURE survival waiting for a better spot at the FT or building a good sized stack for the FT and playing for first. With the first strategy, you may only guarantee another few spots, then again, next hand it could have been your QQ vs his A9 with an ace on the flop. When players run good it just seems they run good. On to the next one.

This isn't even close, shove. You should be embarrassed to even post a hand like this

By saying you're 70% sure the SB will reshoving over your shove, are you implying he will be doing so with ~70% of hands? As in he will be snap rejamming Q2s here when you shove?

I'd comfortably get it in here with 22+ Ax+ K6s+ K9o+ Q9s+ QTo+, J8s+, JTo+, T8s+, 98s and would go wider if we had more fold equity on the BB.

What a beautiful spot. Chance of going into FT with a somewhat healthy chip stack. Shove while celebrating.

why are you so sure villain is going to call you if he only has a 23 vpip?

trent32la said:

This isn't even close, shove. You should be embarrassed to even post a hand like this

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was that sarcastic? with only two players left to act behind us and less than 10bb i think this is okay. of course the FT payjump is important, but 99 is a pretty strong hand preflop for our position. i think its okay to shove here

mbrenneman0 said:

why are you so sure villain is going to call you if he only has a 23 vpip?

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I've witnessed some of the hero calling that villain was doing. Not bad calls but would call with hands such as QJ/J10 depending on position of shover+bbs they had, not to mention they were the over all sheriff of the table

mbrenneman0 said:

was that sarcastic? with only two players left to act behind us and less than 10bb i think this is okay. of course the FT payjump is important, but 99 is a pretty strong hand preflop for our position. i think its okay to shove here

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At this stage, we are playing to set ourselves up to place high in the tournament, not to survive and finish 8th. I'd shove a lot of worse hands here under 10bb, especially as it's also a turbo tournament and we cannot be passing up on clear +EV shove spot like this.

I was being serious, abdi is a good enough player to where he shouldn't even be questioning his shove here. If he wins the flip or even gets folds, this hand is not posted.

trent32la said:

At this stage, we are playing to set ourselves up to place high in the tournament, not to survive and finish 8th. I'd shove a lot of worse hands here under 10bb, especially as it's also a turbo tournament and we cannot be passing up on clear +EV shove spot like this.

I was being serious, abdi is a good enough player to where he shouldn't even be questioning his shove here. If he wins the flip or even gets folds, this hand is not posted.

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oh i missread your post. i totally agree xD